ARSENAL are the masters of the "dark arts"? Give me a break.
I’ve been around and seen teams act way worse in the Prem. None of this is new.
Alan Pardew’s Newcastle were great at it. Cesc Fabregas was a horrible b*****d. John Obi Mikel used to foul you, help you up and step on your calf as he did it.
At Watford we had meetings about Chelsea’s Diego Costa who was so nasty we tried to be really nice to him on the pitch to try and get him on side.
And I will never forget wiping out Martin Skrtel early doors in 2015 and hearing the noise he made when I hit him. I thought: ‘I’ve got you’. We ended up beating Liverpool 3-0.
It is not “dark arts”. It is just trying to wind people up to gain an advantage.
All Arsenal did against Manchester City was manage the clock, trying to give their players a break and they did it really well. It was basically a pre-season drill.
When you go to Old Trafford, when you go to Anfield, anywhere you go, you would try to dampen the crowd, wouldn't you?
Yes they shut up shop, but don’t most teams at the Etihad? Does that make them all dirty and masters of the "dark arts"?
Just because Man City want you to come out and play, does that mean everyone needs to fall in line? They want everyone to play their game and the refs to call it their way.
You can’t have it all your own way. You’ve got the best players, the best manager and the best facilities. Every now and again teams will come and try beat you up.
Don’t get me wrong, Arsenal took it a step too far at times with their time wasting basically from the start of the second half, but it is something they had to do. They had ten men.
But the reason Arsenal and Mikel Arteta are getting so much heat for this so-called “dark arts” is because the likes of Pep Guardiola, John Stones and Bernardo Silva spoke about it.
Silva was squealing like you wouldn’t believe post-match – I could hardly make out what he was saying. And are you telling me Stones didn’t get involved in that sort of stuff at Everton?
But people turn into sheep and latch on to it because a great manager and great group of players start talking about it these ‘dark arts’ and it being a dirty Arsenal performance.
Were there actually any properly dirty tackles in that game? Not one. It was a football match, and a great one at that.
'STRANGE'
Erling Haaland chucked the ball at Gabriel’s head and people are calling for a review? Come on, what are we doing? He didn’t get hurt – it’s a football.
I like Haaland, he is a nasty winner. I have got to say though, the “stay humble” line to Arteta was strange. If he had said that to me, there would have been a bit of action in the tunnel.
Football has just become a bit sterile and boring. Everyone’s nice and lovely. Is it not about winning?
Arteta is tired of coming second and wants to get over the line however he can. He has got it into his players that they need more fight and resilience and they have listened.
'RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS'
City are just using this as a distraction tactic because, dare I say it, they looked like they were running out of ideas and didn’t have a Plan B before they got lucky with the equaliser.
And nobody is talking about it but that red card for Leandro Trossard massively helped City, because for me, without it Arsenal would have gone on to win that game.
When Rodri went off, it was a massive psychological blow and Arsenal smelled blood. Are you telling me they wouldn’t have scored from another set-piece with 11 men on the pitch?
Arsenal are showing they can do things in a different way and it is great for football.
Yes, they can play nice stuff, but they can also bully you now. You haven’t been able to say that for a long, long time.
If I was an Arsenal player, I would be putting two fingers up at the whole world. They’re proving they’re no longer soft. I quite like it.
They’re a really good outfit, they just need to cut out some of the nonsense and stop celebrating every little thing they do and focus on the bigger picture.
It is getting spicy between Arsenal and City, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it impacted the friendship between Arteta and Pep sooner rather than later.
There would have been no glass of wine shared after last weekend.
You can't keep competing against someone and the other one wins all the time. There's going to be some resentment that builds up.
BiIIyDedon
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Ifs, buts and maybes. Sorry but the same can be said for those rivals who failed to beat Man City for the title in the past 4 years. You can't be allowed to give excuses after lavishing praise on the same club who won it for the last 4 years while also ridiculing the others who failed for X, Y & Z reasons.
urfilthyfathamustbethinkingabtofsandbutsofnotwearingcondoomthatnt isn't it 🤡
Vanclmrty
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We're just playing our football, we're not here to prove a point to anyone. Just play yours and leave dirty tricks to us 😉😉😉
winabcekls
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if rodri didn't go off , city could score more than 3goals, but we all witnessed that rodri was targeted. Arteta needs to be investigated
Arsenal were without odegard,merino,Zinchenco ,tominasu,and tierney.
Mavin1556
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he pep helped arteta wit some of his man city players to help him block others like Liverpool and others teams coming closer.Arsen Wenger did it for Ferguson.. now it appears it's not working as planned.
Rubbish talk… like all man city players are from the team academy right??😏😏 They were not bought from another team too or were those players given to arsenal for free… Moreover who among the players in question is in the starting 11 now… just figure it out and imagine the nonsense u just put out here 😏😏
SkylarJohsua
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Rodri was deliberately injured by Hevartz in the start of the game, he must have been couched to do this
are u blind....he is the one who ran towards havertz....please watch the game
SkylarJohsua
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if rodri didn't go off , city could score more than 3goals, but we all witnessed that rodri was targeted. Arteta needs to be investigated
he got injured because he tried to make foul and injured himself in the process...please watch the match
sudalmntuz
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he pep helped arteta wit some of his man city players to help him block others like Liverpool and others teams coming closer.Arsen Wenger did it for Ferguson.. now it appears it's not working as planned.
kisadknst
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Investigate arsenal as soon as the 115 charges are sorted out.
sorted out? they have bought the FA bro. otherwise all these robbery wouldn't o cure on the field of play. have you pondered why Everton and Forest were swiftly penalized last season with points deduction even one of these teams got penalized twice and they are still on city case when it's already been thrown out of window.
kisadknst
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if rodri didn't go off , city could score more than 3goals, but we all witnessed that rodri was targeted. Arteta needs to be investigated
You are simply delusional, it's funny people don't see the dirty and stinking side of man city or you all are simply hypocritical about it. Was your dirty rodri not on the field when we beat them twice and drew one last seasons?. bring another silly excuse to the fore and let us waigh in on it. bunch of 🤡
nitabdkru
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This is just football, each coach and his players wants to win, there for there musent be hatred between pep and his former assistant
PastorMunya
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so no one is talking about Walker tickling Gabriel before he scored from a set piece
kisadknst
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be honest to yourself is the second best team in England a very low class ,dirty ,shameless and unprofessional ?
don't mind the clowns
kisadknst
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if man city won't win the premier league this season then Liverpool can win or chelsea
deluded comment
bezaimortu
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I'm passionate city fan. I totally agree with you. you said all".
Marioiiced
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Arsenal is very low class , dirty , shameless and unprofessional.
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Low IQ human are you just seeing that in EPL even when players obstruct keepers and confused the keepers when corner is about to be taken..no team is excluded in such act or youre just frustrated you didnt win at home and taking Arsenal too personal to start looking for blames...what a shame to a team with the best coach best experience best players best attack but crying all over the internet against who they call small Arsenal.
M_cAveli
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Nobody is talking about it. Apply the same energy when Madrid steal to win Championships.
Wekkrsty
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Arsenal is no longer called soft and it’s annoying a lot of people. Home are the days when teams will bully arsenal now the hunter is being hunted.Arsenal had man down and city had 12 th man in Oliver and you expect them to play what you want, forget
bazacnosy
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if man city won't win the premier league this season then Liverpool can win or chelsea
tuadeknruz
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Arsenal of 5 years back it's not the arsenal of now days they should aware of that
ColinsGooner
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if rodri didn't go off , city could score more than 3goals, but we all witnessed that rodri was targeted. Arteta needs to be investigated
you are an empty head,Were it not for the Red card,Man city were losing the game with over 3/4 goals,Rodri wasn't targeted,he missteped,and he showed his foolishness when he blocked Havertz and went down trying to get Havertz sent off in some seconds,
ColinsGooner
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Arsenal were a man down,it wasn't what they intended to play,when it was 11vs 11they defended with a high line,They were attacking Man City,mind you they were leading 2-1,it the game ended 11 vs 11 Arsenal would have won the game,Man City are dominant on the ball,always difficult to match when it's 11vs11 and tell how you can match them with a man down????????
Yeobdeiopr
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if rodri didn't go off , city could score more than 3goals, but we all witnessed that rodri was targeted. Arteta needs to be investigated
That's not true Any player can get injured.Is he a robot such that he is immune to injuries
Yeobdeiopr
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That's the truth Arteta proving to be a shrewed manager
Takclmprsz
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most of these people in comment section dont read and understand, and i dont knw if it is lack of English... costa nailed it and give more understand btw man city and arsenal match
Ageerjok
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Arsenal is very low class , dirty , shameless and unprofessional.
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Go to the police
Andy_Mac
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if rodri didn't go off , city could score more than 3goals, but we all witnessed that rodri was targeted. Arteta needs to be investigated
Ifs, buts and maybes. Sorry but the same can be said for those rivals who failed to beat Man City for the title in the past 4 years. You can't be allowed to give excuses after lavishing praise on the same club who won it for the last 4 years while also ridiculing the others who failed for X, Y & Z reasons.
vacdeknouz
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Costa has a baseless statement
Vaecimprst
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Arsenal is very low class , dirty , shameless and unprofessional.
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And a high class City struggled to get a point against 10 man Arsenal at their own backyard. What a shame
Ladeimrsu
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if rodri didn't go off , city could score more than 3goals, but we all witnessed that rodri was targeted. Arteta needs to be investigated
Investigate arsenal as soon as the 115 charges are sorted out.
biwacdis
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be honest to yourself is the second best team in England a very low class ,dirty ,shameless and unprofessional ?
podinptuyz
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improve to injured and targeting other players. the rodri story has been revealed, plus Gabriel told Haaland We but not I am waiting for you.
What is the story?
Bukaiotu
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Improved to park the train
The saying goes park the bus jxt educating u
bm69
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This is one of the FEW SENSIBLE and TRUE articles i have read on AF so far this year.
yzi
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Pep Guardiola should know that "it is not business like before". Arsenal have improved a lot
improve to injured and targeting other players. the rodri story has been revealed, plus Gabriel told Haaland We but not I am waiting for you.
Mesbdlmry
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Arsenal is very low class , dirty , shameless and unprofessional.
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let's see if you will take any point from us
yzi
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if rodri didn't go off , city could score more than 3goals, but we all witnessed that rodri was targeted. Arteta needs to be investigated
Lowackmotz
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Lowackmotz
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Arsenal is very low class , dirty , shameless and unprofessional.
Lowackmotz
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Lowackmotz
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husaelosy
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arsenal is improving very well but they play dirty game against city so they can at leastget a point👉
Faisal98764
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Pep Guardiola should know that "it is not business like before". Arsenal have improved a lot
Improved to park the train
Popilnopz
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They did not just shit up shop... Who fkn wrote this I didn't read the whole bs article.
Habcilprsy
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Wind people up is Dark arts
Habcilprsy
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Rodri was deliberately injured by Hevartz in the start of the game, he must have been couched to do this
adewale1169
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Pep Guardiola should know that "it is not business like before". Arsenal have improved a lot