Historians have hit back at 'woke' calls to remove the ship from the crests of Manchester United and Manchester City because of purported links to the slave trade.
An article by Simon Hattenstone in The Guardian claimed the three-mast ships embedded in the respective badges have 'nothing to do with football' and instead represent the 19th century cotton trade that earned Manchester its money.
Both clubs borrowed the design from the city's coat of arms, which also features a merchant ship to reflect the city's industrial heritage and links to the world.
But several figures connected to the clubs and the city have pushed back against Hattenstone's suggestion the badges are an 'emblem of a crime against humanity', pointing out that Manchester was actually at the vanguard of the anti-slavery movement.
Mail Sport has contracted both United and City for comment.
Prominent United historian Iain McCartney, who has written several books about the club, told Mail Sport: 'I think it is all akin to a mountain being made out of a molehill.
'Yes, the ship is there due to Manchester's heritage and yes, the cotton trade went a huge way to make Manchester what it was and what it is today. Yes again, the cotton is clearly linked to slavery.
'Slavery was a cruel thing, with countless numbers suffering one way or the other, there can be no denying that, but the cotton fields part of it is a thing of the past.
'It is from a bygone era when the world was totally different. People did make vast fortunes out of slavery, through cotton, sugar etc. I think that has as much to do with the thinking of many as the actual slavery itself.
'But should United, City and the city itself change their club crest and coat of arms to appease a few? I think not.
'I don't think there is anyone who supports either club who has ever considered the badge as a link to slavery and refused to buy or wear anything with it on it.
'Neither will any player have refused to sign for one or the other because of the badge and its links to slavery.
'None would have given the matter a second thought or even been aware of it.
'The badge is what it is and removing it, knocking down statues, renaming streets and buildings will and cannot make any difference to what has gone before. History is what it is.
'Racism is something the world can do without and more should be done in that aspect, rather than being concerned about a ship that no one knows where it went or what cargo it carried.'
United and City fans are up in arms at the Guardian's claims.
Pilot Mike Goldstein, 57, who has been going to City games through thick and thin for 51 years, said: 'It's just woke nonsense. You can't keep on going back. It'd be like being mad at the Italians for the Roman Empire.'
Chef and United fan Jamie Parkhouse, 37, said: 'People are rightly asking questions about the slave trade but this shouldn't be one of them. The badge is about the Manchester Ship Canal and not slaves. To link the badge and the slave trade is so over-the-top.'
Politicians of all stripes also pushed back against the Guardian's article.
Graham Stringer, Labour MP for Blackley and Broughton and former leader of Manchester City Council, told The Sun: 'Manchester had nothing to do with the slave trade.
'People from the city at the time of the US Civil War in 1861 protested against slavery. This is one of the craziest campaigns I have ever seen.
'I don't think there is any evidence that the ship on the Manchester coat of arms is anything to do with slavery, and I think the campaign of the Guardian is besmirching a rather proud history of radicalism that Manchester has got, right up to the present day, in terms of being way ahead of the game in terms of all sorts of anti-discriminatory policies'.
Conservative MP for South Ribble Katherine Fletcher, who hails from Wythenshawe, told The Sun: 'I've always seen the ship logo as a symbol of our industrial trading heritage.
'Manchester people are some of the most even-handed and welcoming in the world.'
The Manchester historian Jonathan Schofield told the tabloid: 'It's a symbol of free trade.
'The idea is we will have equality throughout the world because people will have the same rights to do business with each other.'
Man United club historian JP O'Neill added of Hattenstone's remarked: 'His 'logic' is as ridiculous as it is contradictory.
'Not only did the club badges long post-date the abolition of slavery, the clubs themselves were only founded decades after slavery was ended.
'The first ship to arrive in Manchester came in 1894 with the opening of the Ship Canal.
'In Manchester, cotton workers during the American Civil War refused to work with slave-picked cotton, putting their livelihoods at risk.'
Historians say Manchester adopted ships as an emblem in 1842 at the earliest - 35 years after the slave trade had been outlawed in the British Empire - and the Britain's third city 'had nothing to do with the slave trade'.
Manchester City was not fully established until 1894. Newton Heath FC became Manchester United in 1902 - 95 years after the slave trade in the British Empire was abolished.
Historians also point out that while Manchester's prosperity in the Industrial Revolution was linked to the importation of cotton for its mills.
In January 1863 Abraham Lincoln specifically thanked the workers of Lancashire when they stopped work and refused to touch raw cotton picked by US slaves.
There is a statue of the emancipatory American president in the city.
Manchester poet Lemn Sissay told the Guardian: 'If slavery is part of what made Manchester great, then Manchester needs to know it and name it, from the ships on the football shirts to the cotton mills of the Industrial Revolution.
'We are all looking closer and the day will come. The question for those dragging their feet is this: are you going to be part of the problem or part of the solution?'.
One reader urged them to campaign over the emblems.
They wrote: 'As someone from the diaspora of Jamaica, I have been on a mission to hopefully force the change and removal of slave ships featured on both Manchester City and Manchester United's club logos, plus the City of Manchester council.
The reader said 'our ancestors are screaming for justice' but are 'mocked by the very tools (ships) of the trade that decimated the African population'.
The article comes at a time when organisations of all types are under increasing scrutiny over their historical links to things such as the slave trade.
The Washington Commanders recently became known as such having been encouraged by activists to change their name from the Washington Redskins.
The Guardian themselves last month admitted to having links to the slave trade, with their founder John Edward Taylor, having partnerships with companies that imported cotton picked by enslaved people.
Andy Burnham is quoted in that particular newspaper as appearing to offer his support to the bee becoming the dominant symbol of the city in the future, but stopping short of calling for the ships to be altogether abolished.
'It's not for me to mess with the badges of our clubs, nor the crest of the council,' he said. 'But it is my job to help build a positive, shared, modern Greater Manchester identity and that is what I hope the Bee Network will do.
'The bee is a symbol of a place where people work for each other and no one is more important than anyone else. This is how we roll.'
Keney_G
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Kings treated slaves worse than anyone. Do you think white people were the first to whip a slave? No. Slave trade maybe but only after they were offered people for goods. Who looks worse, the people that attacked neighboring villages to capture people while killing in the process or the people that traded for them? Still like my original point, whites did not start slavery, africa did and still practices it today but sure blame whitey for civilizing the world
What is the difference between those that attack villages to capture people and what is going on between Ukraine and Russia at the moment. You will agree with me it's just show of power and dominance because they killed and capture together which is something that has been happening everywhere in the world right from time be it locally, regionally or internationally. Slave trade is totally different from this which I want you to understand.
yupbcoruz
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I never disputed that. Like I said, the rich had enough to have slaves especially the kings which can not be compared to slave trade. Maybe you should read your books again. The Portuguese started slave trade and not the other way round.
Kings treated slaves worse than anyone. Do you think white people were the first to whip a slave? No. Slave trade maybe but only after they were offered people for goods. Who looks worse, the people that attacked neighboring villages to capture people while killing in the process or the people that traded for them? Still like my original point, whites did not start slavery, africa did and still practices it today but sure blame whitey for civilizing the world
Keney_G
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Were people enslaved before blacks started trading their own people for goods? The answer is yes!
I never disputed that. Like I said, the rich had enough to have slaves especially the kings which can not be compared to slave trade. Maybe you should read your books again. The Portuguese started slave trade and not the other way round.
yupbcoruz
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The slavery you are talking about is for the rich which is normal in every country then and not the one you are referring to.
Were people enslaved before blacks started trading their own people for goods? The answer is yes!
Keney_G
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Slavery existed in Africa before the “whites”showed up… again read a book
The slavery you are talking about is for the rich which is normal in every country then and not the one you are referring to.
yupbcoruz
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There is no such thing as "white people" as you cl0wns call yourselves! You all a pale col0red p!gs who can't do without stealing from Africa to survive! Europe and America represents EVIL. Two bl00dy continents built on racism and slav€ry! 🤡
Both are first world, africa is 3rd world. You people can’t even use the resources under your foot to build a civilization. Small brains
yupbcoruz
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You are very stup!d to blame Africa after your w!cked and greedy Ancestors stepped foot in that continent to steal their natural recourses and destroy the original African way of life! If you yellow skinned folks hadn't invaded Africa no one would think of selling off their brothers and sisters for coins.
Slavery existed waaayyyyy before the first white person came to Africa. Look it up, read a book. Try and educate urself
yupbcoruz
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If there was no need for slavery abroad, the slave buyers wouldn't have showed up to buy even if they did in exchange for something else. So you are wrong to say African started slave trade. I hope you get the logic now.
Slavery existed in Africa before the “whites”showed up… again read a book
Chima92
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Too bad whites are too smart to fall for your tricks… it’s why we run the world
There is no such thing as "white people" as you cl0wns call yourselves! You all a pale col0red p!gs who can't do without stealing from Africa to survive! Europe and America represents EVIL. Two bl00dy continents built on racism and slav€ry! 🤡
Chima92
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Here goes cancel culture again! When will the quit. Let’s not forget it was africa that started slavery and traded their own people
You are very stup!d to blame Africa after your w!cked and greedy Ancestors stepped foot in that continent to steal their natural recourses and destroy the original African way of life! If you yellow skinned folks hadn't invaded Africa no one would think of selling off their brothers and sisters for coins.
Keney_G
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Read a history book, it’s true… they traded their own people for materials
If there was no need for slavery abroad, the slave buyers wouldn't have showed up to buy even if they did in exchange for something else. So you are wrong to say African started slave trade. I hope you get the logic now.
maturidikxith
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the man who wrote this 👇️👇️
luoclnpu
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This is lame...... focus on racism instead..... silly people
hiyadikor
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I don't even wear cotton because of slavery. I only wear polyester.
J ki
wopmnru
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Here goes cancel culture again! When will the quit. Let’s not forget it was africa that started slavery and traded their own people
very true 👍
Gudiest
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Meanwhile the lion 🦁 in Chelsea logo try to run 🏃♀️ away
Chrisj
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I always thought people will have a problem with the devil on our crest but thr boat?? Just to show what our mindset is like nowadays. No black person gives a crap about what's on the Manchester clubs crest.
Lol you are clearly misappropriation the words stupid and dunce. Where in the article did they say that the ship was associated to slavery, what basis do you have to support that theory? Let me the little "dunce" inform you Mr Ignorant. There were thousands of ships that were used in those times for trading of goods and a very few of those were used for slavery. Now am I saying that Manchester did not profit from slavery, no I'm not, the entire British empire is to be blamed. So Mr Ignorant, I propose we put our efforts into getting the British government to award reparations to countries they affected with slavery instead of focusing on a ship that could mean anything pinned on a badge. With me? smh
Daemi
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I always thought people will have a problem with the devil on our crest but thr boat?? Just to show what our mindset is like nowadays. No black person gives a crap about what's on the Manchester clubs crest.
Word
Zetlmnsz
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I always thought people will have a problem with the devil on our crest but thr boat?? Just to show what our mindset is like nowadays. No black person gives a crap about what's on the Manchester clubs crest.
We are now living in the Information Age, stop being stupid, information makes you powerful, it change the narrative. Not every black people today is lost like you. Why people keep or wear the crucifix, it symbolizes something, The ship on the city of Manchester coat of arms symbolizes the source of the strength and power. Slavery dunce head… They are proud of their endeavor so they place it in a symbol for the world to see for generations. As the saying goes: “If you know, you know”. Stop being a dunce….
Raedksy
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Remove them no wonder why these pink people treat brown people as slaves up to now
I am a pink pig and proud of it. You would be still carrying the donkey on your head if the pink people did not land in Africa.
Stickle
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I don't even wear cotton because of slavery. I only wear polyester.
Chrisj
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I always thought people will have a problem with the devil on our crest but thr boat?? Just to show what our mindset is like nowadays. No black person gives a crap about what's on the Manchester clubs crest.
yupbcoruz
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You mean they shipped their own people abroad to be traded. You sound funny
Read a history book, it’s true… they traded their own people for materials
suzbdklst
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the ship must be removed and only have the devil's on the crest 🤷🤷 in fact removing everything and leaving the devil's as our logo will be great 💯
Keney_G
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Here goes cancel culture again! When will the quit. Let’s not forget it was africa that started slavery and traded their own people
You mean they shipped their own people abroad to be traded. You sound funny
yupbcoruz
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Brown people should actually trade the pink pigs with flies
Too bad whites are too smart to fall for your tricks… it’s why we run the world
General002
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Brown people shouldn’t trade neighboring tribes for steel
Brown people should actually trade the pink pigs with flies
yupbcoruz
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Remove them no wonder why these pink people treat brown people as slaves up to now
Brown people shouldn’t trade neighboring tribes for steel
yupbcoruz
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Here goes cancel culture again! When will the quit. Let’s not forget it was africa that started slavery and traded their own people
General002
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Remove them no wonder why these pink people treat brown people as slaves up to now
gm11
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It's could literally be any boat or famous ship why does slavery have to be brought into it.