As Man Utd was beaten by City at home yesterday, they have lost three straight Manchester derbies at Old Trafford.
Jan, 2020, FA Cup: Man Utd 1-3 Man City
Apr, 2019, Premier League: Man Utd 0-2 Man City
Dec, 2017, Premier League: Man Utd 1-2 Man City
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Profnick
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I know you can beat City. I'm saying don't ask for luck like the PSG result. Ask for a good performance. That's all. PSG was luck. The previous City game was a good performance.
that's football bro, some games you win with pure luck, we are not depending on luck, nor am I wishing for it, we are looking for a comeback of overturning such a deficit. so you and I are saying the same thing in a different way
FootballFAN2110
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the reason we make reference to the PSG game is simple and clear, it was a win on the back of a poor result, and a showing that even playing poorly they pounced on the opportunities gifted to them and utilised them, we did the same against Newcastle for our first goal and against City for the penalty. that's the beauty of football, it's not technically all the time, it's very much that random and the point in that reference is that we can still pull off a win like that, it's not the first time, even during Fergie days we won matches out of pure luck to an extent we became known as comeback kings. it's a perfect reference of our ability to maximize even the smallest of opportunities that come to our door and that's exactly what is needed, City is not going to make it easy but they are far from perfect, at OT you could see many mistakes made by City that we failed to capitalise on, they scored 2 goals out of pure luck and won the game
I know you can beat City. I'm saying don't ask for luck like the PSG result. Ask for a good performance. That's all. PSG was luck. The previous City game was a good performance.
FootballFAN2110
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I think you have completely missed my point, as I said, the reference is to the result, we were 2 goals down walking into the match, as we are now, we were walking into their home, as we are now, we were lacking in key players in our key positions, as we are now, we were ruled out by the bookmakers of a chance of progression into the semis, as we are now, so reference to that will make perfect sense to anyone. I really didn't have to explain all this just to clear that up
And you didn't deserve the result. It was not good football that won the day. It was not like Liverpool, who made a fantastic comeback. It was a calamity of errors. I'm just saying, that situation is not a good representation of how United overcome adversity. They didn't overcome it, the other team gave it away.
Profnick
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I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying referencing the PSG game as a reason you can do it is not good. It's much better to reference the recent league match where you beat City. That was Pep's possession play, proving vulnerable on the counter attack and that is true. Due to the injury to Laporte, City have been very soft in the centre and United exploited that in the earlier match. Other teams have exploited it this season too. Reference an actual tactical accomplishment resulting from a nice performance. Not a match that United won by pure luck which ended up bringing them nothing but misfortune anyway. United's struggles truly began after that match. Using it as a positive example of what the squad can do is not good. Use the City result. Or Tottenham. Use legitimately good results, not ones you lucked your way into. Do not ask for luck, ask for a good performance.
I think you have completely missed my point, as I said, the reference is to the result, we were 2 goals down walking into the match, as we are now, we were walking into their home, as we are now, we were lacking in key players in our key positions, as we are now, we were ruled out by the bookmakers of a chance of progression into the semis, as we are now, so reference to that will make perfect sense to anyone. I really didn't have to explain all this just to clear that up
Profnick
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United did not play well against PSG. They got lucky. They did not generate good chances. And if not for those errors they didn't look like they'd score. United played well against City, generating some decent chances om the counter for a good result. The players did not step up against PSG, PSG threw that one away. The squad did step up against City, where they got a well earned win. Reference what the squad earnt, not what they're handed. It's a much better selling point for your idea. United can win, but not if they play like they did against PSG. They can win if they play like they did against City ealier in the campaign.
the reason we make reference to the PSG game is simple and clear, it was a win on the back of a poor result, and a showing that even playing poorly they pounced on the opportunities gifted to them and utilised them, we did the same against Newcastle for our first goal and against City for the penalty. that's the beauty of football, it's not technically all the time, it's very much that random and the point in that reference is that we can still pull off a win like that, it's not the first time, even during Fergie days we won matches out of pure luck to an extent we became known as comeback kings. it's a perfect reference of our ability to maximize even the smallest of opportunities that come to our door and that's exactly what is needed, City is not going to make it easy but they are far from perfect, at OT you could see many mistakes made by City that we failed to capitalise on, they scored 2 goals out of pure luck and won the game
FootballFAN2110
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reference to the PSG game is not to the play but to the result, which is achievable, United makes great tactical calls and those have won us games and put us fifth in the table and into the semis of the EFL cup, yes United dont have a brilliant squad, which is why some tactical calls will not be well executed and end up in losses. United have lost matches where even though the set up and the calls from the manager look good on paper, the players given the instructions fail to bring the plays into life, simple things like picking out a player's run, or holding on to a ball, or perfectly weighing out a pass, we often see inaccurate passes, heavy or too soft, few balls over the top (but when Pogba came in he delivered those) few through balls and overall poor decisions on the field of play, you can set all tactics but the players need to step up, and usually is two or three guys who mess up the game for the rest of the team. so Ole walks into every match hoping and praying his players don't slip up. we can win, it's feasible, Man City is not invincible, but the players need to step up
United did not play well against PSG. They got lucky. They did not generate good chances. And if not for those errors they didn't look like they'd score. United played well against City, generating some decent chances om the counter for a good result. The players did not step up against PSG, PSG threw that one away. The squad did step up against City, where they got a well earned win. Reference what the squad earnt, not what they're handed. It's a much better selling point for your idea. United can win, but not if they play like they did against PSG. They can win if they play like they did against City ealier in the campaign.
FootballFAN2110
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reference to the PSG game is not to the play but to the result, which is achievable, United makes great tactical calls and those have won us games and put us fifth in the table and into the semis of the EFL cup, yes United dont have a brilliant squad, which is why some tactical calls will not be well executed and end up in losses. United have lost matches where even though the set up and the calls from the manager look good on paper, the players given the instructions fail to bring the plays into life, simple things like picking out a player's run, or holding on to a ball, or perfectly weighing out a pass, we often see inaccurate passes, heavy or too soft, few balls over the top (but when Pogba came in he delivered those) few through balls and overall poor decisions on the field of play, you can set all tactics but the players need to step up, and usually is two or three guys who mess up the game for the rest of the team. so Ole walks into every match hoping and praying his players don't slip up. we can win, it's feasible, Man City is not invincible, but the players need to step up
I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying referencing the PSG game as a reason you can do it is not good. It's much better to reference the recent league match where you beat City. That was Pep's possession play, proving vulnerable on the counter attack and that is true. Due to the injury to Laporte, City have been very soft in the centre and United exploited that in the earlier match. Other teams have exploited it this season too. Reference an actual tactical accomplishment resulting from a nice performance. Not a match that United won by pure luck which ended up bringing them nothing but misfortune anyway. United's struggles truly began after that match. Using it as a positive example of what the squad can do is not good. Use the City result. Or Tottenham. Use legitimately good results, not ones you lucked your way into. Do not ask for luck, ask for a good performance.
Profnick
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Yes. Better teams have a greater chance of creating their own luck through sheer number of chances. That is how good teams are consistently good. Liverpool have been amazing. There is some luck to that but it is mostly down to the squad and the manager. That is how football works. If luck played the largest part, teams would not be able to be consistent nearly as much as they are. United do not make brilliant tactical calls. They do not have a brilliant squad. The PSG game was 100% good fortune. Using that as an example for why you could beat City is literally saying, if City are extraordinarily unfortunate United can win. PSG were extraordinarily unfortunate. United were in no way good. United are also not consistent. Why? Because they are too often relying on fortune. Good teams make their own fortune. All teams get lucky and you need a bit of luck for success no doubt. But relying on it will not work for long.
reference to the PSG game is not to the play but to the result, which is achievable, United makes great tactical calls and those have won us games and put us fifth in the table and into the semis of the EFL cup, yes United dont have a brilliant squad, which is why some tactical calls will not be well executed and end up in losses. United have lost matches where even though the set up and the calls from the manager look good on paper, the players given the instructions fail to bring the plays into life, simple things like picking out a player's run, or holding on to a ball, or perfectly weighing out a pass, we often see inaccurate passes, heavy or too soft, few balls over the top (but when Pogba came in he delivered those) few through balls and overall poor decisions on the field of play, you can set all tactics but the players need to step up, and usually is two or three guys who mess up the game for the rest of the team. so Ole walks into every match hoping and praying his players don't slip up. we can win, it's feasible, Man City is not invincible, but the players need to step up
FootballFAN2110
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you will find that when two teams make brilliant tactical calls that balance out, the game is either won by the finest and slightest of margins or drawn. that's when you hear students of the game saying "the two teams cancelled each other out". above all, football is greater than just the tactical part of it, pure luck, and good favour can win you a game even if all your tactical calls where wrong.
Yes. Better teams have a greater chance of creating their own luck through sheer number of chances. That is how good teams are consistently good. Liverpool have been amazing. There is some luck to that but it is mostly down to the squad and the manager. That is how football works. If luck played the largest part, teams would not be able to be consistent nearly as much as they are. United do not make brilliant tactical calls. They do not have a brilliant squad. The PSG game was 100% good fortune. Using that as an example for why you could beat City is literally saying, if City are extraordinarily unfortunate United can win. PSG were extraordinarily unfortunate. United were in no way good. United are also not consistent. Why? Because they are too often relying on fortune. Good teams make their own fortune. All teams get lucky and you need a bit of luck for success no doubt. But relying on it will not work for long.
Profnick
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If you think 80% of lapses in concentration which are not caused by team play then you're wrong. If teams only scored from individual brilliance or lapses in concentration then managers and tactics would be less important offensively. Because what you're saying means goals are only scored through individual qualitys. That's wrong. Most goals by good sides are scored through the tactical approach. Not individual brilliance. Some goals come from forced mistakes, some goals come from unforced errors but most goals in football come from a teams offensive tactical approach. Unforced errors in games are recorded. There isn't that many in most games regardless of scoreline. In the PSG game, PSG made 3 glaring errors. Kehrer played a pathetic backpass. Buffon spilled an easy stop. Kimpembe commited needless handball. Without those MASSIVE errors, United wouldn't have scored in that game at all. Also. Messi is responsible personally for WELL over 20% of Barcelona's goal output on any given season. With his goals and assists. By your logic, Barcelona scored 350 goals in all comps last year. Because Messi scored or assisted 70. You're simply wrong. Most goals come from team play, not what could be classed as an error. The defenders can do their job perfectly and the ball still finds the back of the net if the team is good enough. It's called being outplayed. It happens a lot.
you will find that when two teams make brilliant tactical calls that balance out, the game is either won by the finest and slightest of margins or drawn. that's when you hear students of the game saying "the two teams cancelled each other out". above all, football is greater than just the tactical part of it, pure luck, and good favour can win you a game even if all your tactical calls where wrong.
Profnick
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If you think 80% of lapses in concentration which are not caused by team play then you're wrong. If teams only scored from individual brilliance or lapses in concentration then managers and tactics would be less important offensively. Because what you're saying means goals are only scored through individual qualitys. That's wrong. Most goals by good sides are scored through the tactical approach. Not individual brilliance. Some goals come from forced mistakes, some goals come from unforced errors but most goals in football come from a teams offensive tactical approach. Unforced errors in games are recorded. There isn't that many in most games regardless of scoreline. In the PSG game, PSG made 3 glaring errors. Kehrer played a pathetic backpass. Buffon spilled an easy stop. Kimpembe commited needless handball. Without those MASSIVE errors, United wouldn't have scored in that game at all. Also. Messi is responsible personally for WELL over 20% of Barcelona's goal output on any given season. With his goals and assists. By your logic, Barcelona scored 350 goals in all comps last year. Because Messi scored or assisted 70. You're simply wrong. Most goals come from team play, not what could be classed as an error. The defenders can do their job perfectly and the ball still finds the back of the net if the team is good enough. It's called being outplayed. It happens a lot.
tactical dominance is only proved when the opposite tactician makes the incorrect tactical calls, as I stated earlier on, yes we don't take away the brilliance in a tactical set up, but also for every perfect tactic there is a counter tactic and if that counter tactic is not as good or well planned as the other then you will establish tactical dominance. this is why you saw Ole beat Pep, a brilliant tactician who made all the right tactical calls except the one to cater for a counter attack, same tactical error was made by Jose Mourinho and Klopp, Pep came back in the second half of the game at the Etihad with tactical corrections and dominated that half, actually he won it. at Old Trafford, Ole made a bad tactical call setting up Pereira as a DM and putting Lingard as CAM in a game were a more protective midfielder was needed, Pereira can tackle but he is more efficient in the no10 role, Ole lost that half, he came back second half and fixed that wrong tactical call and won the second half, whilst Pep failed to counter the change after the break by switching his tactics into a wider approach than the central play he was using in the first half with an interchangeable false 9. all those were results from wrong calls which a good call capitalised on, and that's why I said what I said
FootballFAN2110
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in very game of football, 80% of goals come from lapses in concentration, and only 20 percent from individual brilliance. that is from ill positioning, defensive error, poor tactical calls, poor recovery, sloppy marking, sloppy plays, poor decisions like lunging into tackles, getting beaten in the process and leaving your teammates short handed. a very well disciplined side will concede very few chances and win or draw a game, there are game changers who can then break such teams down, like Leo Messi, and KDB... which constitutes for 20% of goals scored if not 30%... so I can say, the same way we beat city and spurs and PSG, without individual brilliance, that is the same way we will beat city again. is that much easier to understand sir?
If you think 80% of lapses in concentration which are not caused by team play then you're wrong. If teams only scored from individual brilliance or lapses in concentration then managers and tactics would be less important offensively. Because what you're saying means goals are only scored through individual qualitys. That's wrong. Most goals by good sides are scored through the tactical approach. Not individual brilliance. Some goals come from forced mistakes, some goals come from unforced errors but most goals in football come from a teams offensive tactical approach. Unforced errors in games are recorded. There isn't that many in most games regardless of scoreline. In the PSG game, PSG made 3 glaring errors. Kehrer played a pathetic backpass. Buffon spilled an easy stop. Kimpembe commited needless handball. Without those MASSIVE errors, United wouldn't have scored in that game at all. Also. Messi is responsible personally for WELL over 20% of Barcelona's goal output on any given season. With his goals and assists. By your logic, Barcelona scored 350 goals in all comps last year. Because Messi scored or assisted 70. You're simply wrong. Most goals come from team play, not what could be classed as an error. The defenders can do their job perfectly and the ball still finds the back of the net if the team is good enough. It's called being outplayed. It happens a lot.
Profnick
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PSG gave that game away. It wasn't down to good play but poor mistakes. All of Uniteds goals came from PSG individual errors. Praying for the same is praying for a miracle. Youre mot hoping for United to be better by saying this, you're praying City will be dramatically worse.
in very game of football, 80% of goals come from lapses in concentration, and only 20 percent from individual brilliance. that is from ill positioning, defensive error, poor tactical calls, poor recovery, sloppy marking, sloppy plays, poor decisions like lunging into tackles, getting beaten in the process and leaving your teammates short handed. a very well disciplined side will concede very few chances and win or draw a game, there are game changers who can then break such teams down, like Leo Messi, and KDB... which constitutes for 20% of goals scored if not 30%... so I can say, the same way we beat city and spurs and PSG, without individual brilliance, that is the same way we will beat city again. is that much easier to understand sir?
FootballFAN2110
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United fans, take heart, we beat them before we can do it again, 2 goal difference, I get a sense of Dejavu, that PSG return leg
PSG gave that game away. It wasn't down to good play but poor mistakes. All of Uniteds goals came from PSG individual errors. Praying for the same is praying for a miracle. Youre mot hoping for United to be better by saying this, you're praying City will be dramatically worse.
FootballFAN2110
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No manager could save United, the rot has set in at the very top of the club. Until they empower someone with a clue about football and how to run a competitive, not just profitable, club they won't come anywhere near the level they displayed during Fergie's tenure.
Woodward stays as long as the Glazers are in charge so he is, at the very least, a cancer you cannot cut out.
FootballFAN2110
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poorest Man utd team of all time
United have been relegated, don't be dramatic.
FootballFAN2110
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D couch is not the problem, man utd major problem is Ed Woodward. With him man utd will be relegated to lower division. Mark my words.
Woodward stays as long as the Glazers stay. Sacking Ole for a world class coach is the only way United get better. Woodward isn't.going anywhere.
Boedeirsyz
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D couch is not the problem, man utd major problem is Ed Woodward. With him man utd will be relegated to lower division. Mark my words.
KingKhamah
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How come Chelsea hasn't beaten Man U in two seasons and Man U has been eliminating them in cup competitions
bayeilosuz
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cetacptu
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poorest Man utd team of all time
VictorTryst1
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more humiliation coming
Jamanoor88
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No manager could save United, the rot has set in at the very top of the club. Until they empower someone with a clue about football and how to run a competitive, not just profitable, club they won't come anywhere near the level they displayed during Fergie's tenure.
Ruhclmstyz
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Get Pochetinho
Ruhclmstyz
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EFL Cup
Doaostuz
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Romero he's been doing hood and more lucky on games than De Gea the cup games Romero maybe lost one game only why is Ole afraid to put this De Gea on the bench let him rest. like that he will not come back to his best or improve because any game he lose or make mistakes he think he's correct.Ole must just go
descairo_yund
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#ole out #pochettino in utd
ftball
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still Lingardinho Is the best player in England.
Kukilnosu
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why i don't understand why ole don't give romero a chance like he gives degea in the next match in the place of pereria ole should put mata and in the place of degea ole should put romero
Profnick
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United fans, take heart, we beat them before we can do it again, 2 goal difference, I get a sense of Dejavu, that PSG return leg
Abdurahimov
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Official: All stadiums of Manchester city is the home stadiums of Manchester City
bibbdnpsu
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why Ole can't give Romero more chances than de gea? it's like de gea need a leave of absence to be serious
Yes
Oskarsimon
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why Ole can't give Romero more chances than de gea? it's like de gea need a leave of absence to be serious
Kedcdouyz
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and there is still one to be losed this year again
veuklnorty
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hello D.trump here is another General
MAAI7
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We only have Away form
Wily Sinare
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Where was Romero?
ishti
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Ex Man Utd players must be fuming because they have no player to blame for this mess. Pogba is in the Hospital & Martial is on the Bench. Lukaku is gone. They would rather die than admit Lingard is useless, Ole is their ex teammate so they must be dying silently.
kohbcdmo
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i dont undeestand why de gea play not henderson or romero... romero and henderson can leave other club
Shalltear
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when I see Jones and lingard I know that we will lose..I love greenwood but he is good at right winger for now
Theman21
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Don't forget, Manchester was painted red last month at Etihaad
Manchesterβs always been red. City just sometimes throws blue paint on.
__jaybee
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the situation of every united fan
Syd007
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Don't forget, Manchester was painted red last month at Etihaad
ommarri12
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So much talent and potential but Time isn't on their side... They need the Arab money!! and spend big !! but with this manager in charge..its a waste!!
shibli69
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too much crying man utd fan πππππ