Within Gareth Southgate's England squad, they talk about the shift in belief that has accompanied their progress through a World Cup semi-final to a European Championships final.
They no longer hope to win, they almost expect to. Heroic failure is no longer an option. The question is this: When will the public catch up?
In England, among the supporters and certain sections of the media, half a century or more of failure to win big tournament matches has taken its toll and maybe this is why tomorrow's World Cup quarter-final against France is viewed by many as a bridge too far for Southgate's team.
Images of Kylian Mbappe and his five goals at this tournament are vivid, for sure. Antoine Griezmann, meanwhile, is so consistent at this level he has now played 71 consecutive games for his country.
But England have very good players too. Captain Harry Kane would get a place in any team at this World Cup while young Jude Bellingham is emerging as Qatar's stand out talent.
The French are worried and concerned about our players. They do not see us as the underdogs we seem so happy to paint ourselves as.
'We believe certainly as players, as individuals and a group,' said full-back Kieran Trippier yesterday.
'We need to perform, we know that, to make the supporters believe, to make you guys believe.
'All we can ask for is support from fans back home and yourselves.
'Every time we cross that line, you can see we're going to give everything, play good football, score goals and keep clean sheets as well.
'As a team, all we can ask for us is support, which you've given us - certainly since I've been with England.'
The task ahead of England this weekend is significant. An English national team has never beaten a major football nation away from home in a major tournament. That is a startling and slightly daunting fact.
Southgate's players insist it is one that doesn't trouble them.
There are likely to be six survivors from the team that lost to Croatia in the 2018 semi-final in Moscow in Southgate's team at the Al Bayt Stadium tomorrow night, as well as Eric Dier and Raheem Sterling on the substitutes' bench.
These are the players who talk of the difference between then and now. Harry Maguire put it particularly well earlier this week as he recalled returning from Russia four and a half years ago to a hero's welcome.
This time the Manchester United defender will only accept that if he has the trophy with him.
'I think that's the one thing I'd say that's a lot different from 2018,' Maguire said.
'I played in 2018 and we got to the semi-final and I think a lot of the lads were happy.
'We knew everyone would be patting us on the back. But I think now there's a belief that we've got to win this tournament and that's a good change in the mentality.
'Of course, we know how tough it is going to be. I think there are probably five or six teams with the same belief. But in 2018, we probably weren't one of those teams that had that belief. Now we are.'
In France they are worried about England. They are also concerned about the number of missing players in Didier Deschamps squad and the patchy form of players like Maguire's United team-mate Raphael Varane.
To the neutral the French are favourites. They are the world champions and their supporting three of Mbappe, Griezmann and Ousmane Dembele have been in full flow in Qatar.
The English version of Phil Foden, Jude Bellingham and Bukayo Saka also carries a threat, though, and Southgate's team have the better statistics. Twelve tournament goals compared to France's nine and three clean sheets to their rivals' none.
England have also shared their goals between eight players in this World Cup while France have only three.
All this adds up to England having a puncher's chance at least. They have not played consistently well through this tournament but have shown themselves to be capable of devastating attacking play in quick bursts.
Against Iran in game one three goals came in the space of ten minutes. Against Wales and Senegal the damage was spread across only eighteen.
France represent a step up in class from anyone England have played here thus far. Southgate's team will have to find another gear.
But there is reason to suspect they do possess one and know where it is. The English public has been fed a diet of over-promising and under-achievement for too long. It is not really a surprise they continue to look at their national team with an eyebrow raised.
All patterns have to change at some stage though and England have their eyes locked on something special.
Can they really beat France and maybe Portugal and then Brazil over the course of the next nine days to lift this trophy? The answer will depend on who you ask.
Kehabcelmz
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bcoz of there inexperience coach
KingRogers7
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Southgate ๐
Onimisi1
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I don't believe it can possible now
Venbdlmnrs
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What makes you believe that Brazil is going to the final? Don't you know that if Brazil qualify for the semi final, they are going to play their South American champions, Argentina?
Teaaknrtyz
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fans support has always been there
foeeilmsuz
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england can't win
Donelosy
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Any team can win including England
fobainoru
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England will win France
Nanarasta111
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Because they don't have the will or pedigree of winnning ...tomorrow they shall see their end and begin packing their garbage for Monday trip
sekilnotu
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The English player's are more interested in party rather than football
Younger35400
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Because theyโre overhyped by foolish England pundits
iffy1985
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This is football anything is possible. Can anybody believe that Morocco could dumped out Spain and Belgium, Germany are out already so nothing impossible
Mebacoy
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The Blue ๐๐๐ Will Hand You A Defeat. So Don't Talk Big. Just Play Your Football. Harry And Stone Will Give Victory To France.
skychilee
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Its because Southgate as the national team coach.
RM_y_nada_mas
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Joke of the day๐๐๐๐
winbins
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Because other country has won ๐
UnitedAkonam
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England will go with a Red Card. if they did not receive red, they will use a basket to pack goals from Mbappe and co. France is no small team where England thrives
Mimacdeiko
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The only way they can win is by playing 7 defenders but dropping harry macguire ๐
Wudcdint
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England can not win because of the substandard players they have. Sterling, Maguire, Saka, Grealish, etc
suacimnyz
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England can't win it never and ever because you guys talk too much Always want people to think you are the best, but you guys are worse. Always it's comi g home but since 1966 it has never come. Brazil, Germany, France, and the rest who have won it more than you don't talk the way you guys does.
Everybody talks. Stop hating
vimabdmorz
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Because they always think they can win. In the end they always lose.
Soubdnosz
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England has no spine. They will flop at the sight of any good team. They only get back to be lions when playing small teams. Simple, it's the Harry Kane effect. He and his Spurs do the same at club level.
yuhbcmryz
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England can't win it never and ever because you guys talk too much Always want people to think you are the best, but you guys are worse. Always it's comi g home but since 1966 it has never come. Brazil, Germany, France, and the rest who have won it more than you don't talk the way you guys does.
soabdemruz
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Maybe in 2050
putaiorsty
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because maguire is the defender englang will lose against france
Hihenoty
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yes we can
Yamamos
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The only way England can win is by telling walker to play left and right back
How will England cope With mbappe and dembele pace the two fastest wingers, oh sorry I forgot coman and vini but that aside, I donโt see England containing those two
Yamamos
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Beat France and Argentina first before dreaming of world Cup
Let them get past France before you start hyping them, I know they canโt get part France
Yamamos
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Honestly speaking Portugal ๐ต๐น is really good at this moment but England not bad as Well but gate doesnโt seem to dare to unleash his great players like foden , gearlish n sterling
Yeah I agree with you, I believe Portugal can go all the way
nonacilmpt
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hi
Namakpsy
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because the media hype them too much
cayadeopu
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Honestly speaking Portugal ๐ต๐น is really good at this moment but England not bad as Well but gate doesnโt seem to dare to unleash his great players like foden , gearlish n sterling
darrenham
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Beat France and Argentina first before dreaming of world Cup
Wapmnort
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If Greece can win the euros, China or England can win too. English twits...
Americapeople
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Until you meet France on Saturday
Destrothegoat
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The only way England can win is by telling walker to play left and right back