Erik ten Hag and Raphael Varane have 'obviously' fallen out, and the result could prove critical for Manchester United, Mail Sport's expert Chris Wheeler shared on It's All Kicking Off.
The former Real Madrid man moved to Manchester for a bumper £41million plus add-ons in the summer of 2021, and in subsequent seasons became an important presence for the club's defence - and particular stalwart of Ten Hag's after his appointment in 2022.
But increasingly out-of-favour at Old Trafford, relations are thought to be irretrievably broken between the two men, with the defender making just seven starting appearances across all competitions.
Both Varane and former Real Madrid team-mate Casemiro are thought to be heading for the exit at Old Trafford, possibly as early as the upcoming January window, after the sale of a 25 per cent stake in the club to Sir Jim Ratcliffe.
However, the fracas between Varane and his manger could have far greater ramifications for the dressing room whether he stays or goes, as Wheeler discussed with Mail Sport's Ian Ladyman.
'In the dressing room, I think (Ten Hag) has support,' Wheeler shared. 'I think there's obviously an issue with Jadon Sancho, naturally. The one that I think is concerning people is the Varane thing, that's very strange.
'He's a World Cup winner, he's come from Real Madrid, he was an absolute shoe-in for a place in this team pretty much since he came into the club. And there's been obviously a falling out there. Erik's calling it rumours, he's not really biting on it.
'(But) there has quite clearly been a falling out between Ten Hag and Varane essentially over him being dropped for the derby and the fact that Johnny Evans was played alongside (Harry) Maguire instead of him, and that was very hard for someone like him to go and take.
'So I think it's a bad time for Erik Ten Hag to be losing support of senior players, and I think there's a certain degree of sympathy for Jadon Sancho, and Varane, of course, has his allies in that dressing room.'
Wheeler added that it wasn't 'all roses' at Carrington, and revealed that there had been some backlash to Ten Hag's strident discipline with his players.
'I think when it's going well, all these things work fine,' Wheeler added. 'When things start to go wrong, that's when people begin to gripe a little bit, and it is a concern.'
Ladyman noted that it was a 'dangerous' decision of Ten Hag's to find himself at odds with a player of Varane's stature, and in light of the former World Cup winner's strong contributions during United's last campaign, as well as how being on the outside might impact his mood in the dressing room.
'The bigger the player, the bigger the ego, the bigger the problem,' Wheeler agreed. 'Obviously, the great example of that would be the whole (Cristiano) Ronaldo thing that happened last year. That became untenable in the end, of course.
'I don't think that Varane is on that scale. He's not that kind of player, not that kind of person. But you're absolutely right. When you have a senior player like that, obviously he's got a big ego. He's proud. He's proud of what he's done in his career.
'He hasn't come to Manchester United to go be on the bench and play behind someone like Jonny Evans who, with all due respect, is 35 now. He wants to be playing, he should be playing in that team. This team's not good enough to leave out Raphael Varane, you know.
'When you have a senior player like that, a big name, a star name, who's not playing, and I think no one's accusing him of subterfuge here, but you're absolutely right.
'You get players starting to moan a bit and they've got allies themselves and they'll be - they're not causing trouble, but certainly will not be a positive influence. And that's what he needs right now.'
Ten Hag has scant time to rebuild his relationship with Varane and reintegrate him into his squad amidst a difficult run of fixtures as United attempt to hold onto their Premier League standing and continue in Europe.
Currently rock-bottom of Group A, after drawing 3-3 with Galatasaray on Wednesday evening, Man United must both beat Bayern Munich and hope results go their way in Copenhagen's meeting with the Turkish side to make it through to the Champions League knockout rounds.
ChrisSteve88
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Maguire will play along Licha when he returns
Heaadelosz
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This team's not good enough to leave out Raphael Varane, you know. Well said!!!
lbcrna
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while Maguire an play beside any of them . Varane should go this January
lbcrna
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Manchester United should show Varane and Varane the exit door this January cos they aren't contributing anything to the team .
jydomadrid1
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you are a real Madrid fan, so you know everything. what a load of crap? This is not a playstation to change managers left right and centre. United lost all UCL matches because of individual errors. A stupid like you would only say it as a coach's fault. Say you are a stupid Ronaldo fan and hate ten hag. Don't speak football, seems like you don't know anything
that's where you get it wrong,I'm a real Madrid fan,never a player's fan, Ronaldo was our legend,he belongs to another club now, that's that,now let me tell you,I'm a football fan,been watching football for over 30 years,I respect man u a lot, especially during the Ferguson era,man u was a Worthy adversary, you agree with me that sir Ferguson doesn't have a favorite player,toy either man up or you're shipped out,he standard was so high,post '99 UCL man u triumph,I remember how sir Alex turned average players to stars,he doesn't take half measures,players ,like John carrick,Wes brown,those Brazilian twins wingbacks,I've forgotten their names,that was the good old days,compare to what ten hag is doing now, you'll agree with me that the standard are falling,you claim individual errors, don't make me laugh,have you ever wondered why it's the Coach that get sacked and not the players,I hope you're a true man u fan,you will understand what I mean, good night
Jeremykyan1
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there's no falling out between anyone in the squad, it's like Ten Hag said in his press conference against Everton, there's an internal competition between players. And at the moment Maguire is just undroppable with how good he's actually been.
Vasdeilprs
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you don't like the truth,I'm a Real Madrid fan,so believe me
you are a real Madrid fan, so you know everything. what a load of crap? This is not a playstation to change managers left right and centre. United lost all UCL matches because of individual errors. A stupid like you would only say it as a coach's fault. Say you are a stupid Ronaldo fan and hate ten hag. Don't speak football, seems like you don't know anything
Vasdeilprs
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bullshit. Varane is right footed defender, meanwhile Evans is left footed. Tenhag is stubborn about this, that's why even Luke Shaw played as CB. With the current form, it's impossible to drop Maguire. so he dropped Varane. it's same as that
Vicsammy
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Varane can only play along Martinez who can control the ball and read the game well but this people won’t understand.
jydomadrid1
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shut up
you don't like the truth,I'm a Real Madrid fan,so believe me
Vaaaben
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I don't think Varane deserves place in starting eleven on current form so does Lindelof. Only Maguire is a surety. As Evans,Liccha both injured ,chances are for both to play. Against Newcastle , Varane could partner Harry.
Fokbeklps
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Should sack the manager and keep the players, especially Sancho, Varene and Casemiro
Fokbeklps
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Fuc. Off , useless manager keeps talking nonsense. Just don’t admit his mistake for signing useless Onana. Sack him
keweikprsy
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the problem of Manchester united is ten hag,pure and simple,he came from Ajax where there was no pressure, you're not expected to win UCL or any other competition in Europe,he came from that background to Man u where the expectation is higher and the competition is stiff,the pressure is getting to him and it's affecting his man management skills, he's used to upcoming players not stars like Ronaldo,varane, Sancho and casemiro,hence he felt threatened by these guys,the guys he brought in doesn't measure up, with de gea,man u would have held on to that lead,at most Galatasaray would have had one goal,but you hounded a De gea and brought in onana, how had onana fared so far,I think Man u have to let this guy go, they're out of UCL and I don't see them even progressing much in Europa league,not to talk of winning it
True bro
sekilnotu
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the problem of Manchester united is ten hag,pure and simple,he came from Ajax where there was no pressure, you're not expected to win UCL or any other competition in Europe,he came from that background to Man u where the expectation is higher and the competition is stiff,the pressure is getting to him and it's affecting his man management skills, he's used to upcoming players not stars like Ronaldo,varane, Sancho and casemiro,hence he felt threatened by these guys,the guys he brought in doesn't measure up, with de gea,man u would have held on to that lead,at most Galatasaray would have had one goal,but you hounded a De gea and brought in onana, how had onana fared so far,I think Man u have to let this guy go, they're out of UCL and I don't see them even progressing much in Europa league,not to talk of winning it
shut up
sekilnotu
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Let lisandro come back from injury than Varane will be hero again
jydomadrid1
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the problem of Manchester united is ten hag,pure and simple,he came from Ajax where there was no pressure, you're not expected to win UCL or any other competition in Europe,he came from that background to Man u where the expectation is higher and the competition is stiff,the pressure is getting to him and it's affecting his man management skills, he's used to upcoming players not stars like Ronaldo,varane, Sancho and casemiro,hence he felt threatened by these guys,the guys he brought in doesn't measure up, with de gea,man u would have held on to that lead,at most Galatasaray would have had one goal,but you hounded a De gea and brought in onana, how had onana fared so far,I think Man u have to let this guy go, they're out of UCL and I don't see them even progressing much in Europa league,not to talk of winning it
Hahkmpyz
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ETH and his ego is the biggest problem for Manu
ishti
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Eric Ten Hag:- I never give up, I'm a Fighter. (Then he goes on to Fight with his players) [Crylaugh]
zakdeiopt
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The problem with the entire Man U base is that they talk too much and sometimes talk so unrealistic. This guy has been having injuries frequently, and this has reduced his game tim. Can you tell us when last Varane completed a full game?
gm11
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What bs. He's clearly struggling with fitness, the fella can't play a full 90 minutes ever. Why? Cause he gave his all for Madrid and his prime years are used up. Say he's ran into the ground at this stage.
King185
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Left a great club like Madrid in his prime for a "bigger challenge" lol now he has the biggest challenge cause let's face it United is dying and now he wants to jump ship.