Imagine suggesting back in the summer that within six months Casemiro and Raphael Varane would be sold by Manchester United.
You'd have been on the receiving end of some funny looks. Both players were instrumental in Erik ten Hag's successful first season at Old Trafford, embodying the professionalism and winning mentality so desperately required in the United dressing room.
Having paid Real Madrid £112million for the pair in consecutive summers and handed them enormous multi-year salaries around the £350,000-per-week mark, they were regarded as two pillars Ten Hag could build around.
Yet football waits for no man and both Casemiro and Varane could be heading for the Old Trafford exit as soon as January.
As Sir Jim Ratcliffe takes charge of United's football operations following his £1.3billion investment, both could be moved on as the strategy shifts.
With the Ineos billionaire and his sporting director Sir Dave Brailsford expected to sit on a new football committee once their 25 per cent stake is rubber-stamped, big changes could be afoot.
In so far as French club Nice, also owned by Ineos, can offer us some clues as to what to expect from them at Old Trafford, there could well be a driving down of the average squad age.
That currently stands at 24.2 years, making it one of the youngest in Ligue 1, and it's skewed somewhat by the present of captain Dante, 40, and goalkeeper Salvatore Sirigu, 36.
Incidentally, Nice's Italian coach Francesco Farioli is only 34 and youth isn't serving them too badly as they sit second in the table, unbeaten in 12 games and just a point behind leaders Paris Saint-Germain.
It may hint at United pivoting back to what they have done well in the past - producing or signing talented young footballers and developing them to their full potential.
That could well signal the end of spending extortionate sums on older, established names such as Casemiro and Varane, who may boast impressive CVs but were 30 and 28 respectively when signed.
Brazil midfielder Casemiro, now 31, cost United £60m plus £10m in add-ons and is their highest earner on around £350,000-a-week over four years.
He was consistently excellent last season, forging an effective midfield partnership with Christian Eriksen and Bruno Fernandes, scoring seven goals and assisting a further six.
But his form dropped off a cliff this season before he suffered a hamstring injury that will keep him sidelined until Christmas.
It has meant United have struggled to take a firm grip on midfield in a number of their games and it helps explain their wholly unconvincing form.
In short, Casemiro has started to show his age and the wisdom of United's huge outlay - £70m in transfer fee and £72.8m in salary over his four-year contract - is starting to be questioned.
He has been linked with a January move to Saudi Arabia, which could allow United to recoup some money, but even if he stays his future is likely to be up for discussion in the summer.
Varane, 30, was signed for £42m in the summer of 2021, when Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was still in charge at Old Trafford.
On wages of £340,000-per-week, the French centre-back would earn £70.72m over the duration of his four-year contract.
But having fallen out of favour with Ten Hag and down United's defensive pecking order, Varane may not get that far.
Bayern Munich have expressed an interest in signing him for £25m in January but Varane would need to take a pay cut.
As Mail Sport has reported, the relationship between Varane and Ten Hag has practically broken down with a frank exchange taking place when he was dropped for last month's Manchester derby.
Varane started 22 of 30 Premier League fixtures he was fit and available for last season and began this campaign as first-choice.
But United's last four league outings have seen Varane play six minutes against Sheffield United, be an unused sub against City, come on for one minute at Fulham and play just 11 against Luton.
Varane might be able to tolerate Harry Maguire starting ahead of him but it's harder to take when Victor Lindelof and 35-year-old Jonny Evans are more in favour.
When Lisandro Martinez returns from his foot injury, Varane could find himself even further from Ten Hag's plans.
For both players, it represents a dramatic decline in their stock from only a few months ago.
For United, the fact they'd even countenance selling two such influential figures potentially indicates a clean break from past transfer strategy under Ratcliffe.
Instead of paying astronomical sums for established players who might prosper for a year or two before fading, maybe United will pay less for younger players who will only gain in value.
Time will tell whether Ratcliffe's recruitment strategy brings back the glory days as United crave.
Dukeimoruz
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casemiro need real Madrid
Dukeimoruz
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casemiro come back real Madrid
waddsuyz
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It’s easy to roast a player when they’re not in good form or not getting on with the Manager, but I don’t think anyone can deny they have been spending crazy sums of cash on players like this, and misfiring Antony, and then putting them all on bloated contracts that only few clubs can take on. Let’s not forget they didn’t get Martinez cheap either. Has it worked? I don’t think so. Lots to be said for finding and developing younger talent like Arsenal has done. United can’t spend their way out of this. Thought they would have learned lessons from the ridiculous contract they put De Gea on. Clearly not. And Sancho? Another huge outlay of money on another big contract that isn’t performing. Yeah…something has to change.
Orisky
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they should leave abeg
King_Martins_Lover
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Madrid are just too good in doing Business
Leybektuy
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Someone should tell the Chinese Pep that the players that he sidelined are the ones who won 4 UCLs and various trophies. He is the problem not the players.
Jubakmnpy
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madrid should bring casemiro back
Layacelnos
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sell 10hags and all his private players.He like fire s others, he is not fit of himself. please.
wiwdlmoptu
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one of the problem of Manchester United is the coach those players are good they could find it difficult handling experience players you can see it falling out with all the experience and big stars very easy is only used to handling her upcoming players like when he was in urgent United didn't suit even better look for a good coach out there those players are still good.
momenhuda
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Not only last season Case still best player in Man U, he face some problem now but he must back strongly, he is the fighter.
momenhuda
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they are not performing especially verane always injured casemero bellow the par
Case lift United coma to alive his 1st season, this season he face problem.
momenhuda
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Why Case form drop this season? because last season defence better then this season, Maguire play well now but start of the season he was very bad, no DM olay well with this bullshit defence. 1st United need top Class CB.
Jeremy21
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True, even haters are a joke too, it's that bad.
I'm sorry for the trouble I've caused. I didn't mean to, and I understand how difficult things must be for you right now.
maturidikxith
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trent is better then all united players❣️💯🙏
Hanadklnor
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These two players are not the problems of Manchester united, the problems depends on performance in the pitch
Ducadinsz
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from attack to defenses!! united have no outstanding player! y only putting ur failure on only casemiro n varane? is a shame!!!
Soccdiprz
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Am not a man u fan but Casemiro isn't worthy going
igwechoice
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Manchester united board should just do the business and cash out now wey the ticket never cut! all I pledge from Manchester united now is good business with whoever wants those two players! I no wan hear €20m please!
hoaabdtu
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don't sell them please
Puhcknrsuz
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Manchester United is a joke. From the board, to the coach, to the players and fans. Wahala everywhere[Sadtolook]
True, even haters are a joke too, it's that bad.
Bezcemors
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Good business for Glazer
ripcemntu
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they are not performing especially verane always injured casemero bellow the par
Menzaxxxxx
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Man united after realizing Saudi can be their way out
RealAnfield
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Man United didn't pay for their heads after all.
fotacdeinz
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Yes
Kitalmuyz
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I love man UTD
Kkrexuke
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And Chelsea also has a very young squad. So who is gonna be the leaders?
viucdelnz
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Era finished 🤣😂
Panacdnpst
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man United are not serious at all. why selling them. this coach has problems. from sacho to varane and casemiro
zoaabcotz
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The coach don’t know what he is doing at all
Jape
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I really hope we can get xhabi Alonso as our new manager
NathanWayneIssa
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I'd axe the coach "Ten" and leave the 2. There's more coaches in their dressing room "Ten" [Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh]
PaulPuspanathan
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MU purchased senior players last couple of years. Arsenal invested in youth. arsenal in good position for next 5 years
Jeremy21
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Manchester United is a joke. From the board, to the coach, to the players and fans. Wahala everywhere[Sadtolook]
Puhcknrsuz
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A sure sign of a team in disarray, no clue, no direction and no drive.... cry my beloved team.
footballloveronly
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Maguire checks the list if he is being sold at the end or not 😂
OFFICIAL88
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10 Hags has just failed in England. He should just leave United for other coaches. Everytime he's having dispute with the players. He bought players he wanted but still blaming them instead of blaming himself. This is England Mr. 10
Mullerpelly
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Casemiro be like I can’t face what CR7 is facing again let me leave
mhdzubairmu
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just sell RFV
Ruhcimprsu
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both of the 2 players he's trying to sell, is more valuable than the useless guy he bought from Ajax
Jeremykyan1
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just shut up with this news already! even the coach himself said that they are important players
0kechukwu123
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Sack the manager instead. Players is the club Asset. How can he froze £73 million player. With ETH around players will not perform
Before you start talking trash, just go through this salary list.
JoeRock
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Appoint de zerbi.. or conte.. or... zizou..
vimaberty
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ETH will be replaced by Francesco Farioli next season
Mapabeimru
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The ETH effect
daheimpsty
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if that is true, RM is laughing out load with man u
Neromax9
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Both of them came to Manu for UCL qualification but since the management a group of idiots we can see how it goes.
Fokbeklps
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Sack the manager instead. Players is the club Asset. How can he froze £73 million player. With ETH around players will not perform
gm11
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Casemiro bought by ETH, its was blunder to buy a ageing player for exorbitant value. It wasn't a smart piece business. It's really crap......
In your opinion ofc.
denadintuz
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Casemiro bought by ETH, its was blunder to buy a ageing player for exorbitant value. It wasn't a smart piece business. It's really crap......