Thomas Tuchel was the coach who followed Jurgen Klopp into Borussia Dortmund so he knows plenty about the impact the man he calls ‘Kloppo’ can have on a club, a fanbase and even a whole country.
‘When he trained Dortmund, the whole of Germany loved Dortmund,’ said Tuchel with a smile on Friday. ‘So now he trains Liverpool and you have the feeling the whole country loves Liverpool.’
Tuchel and Klopp will meet at Wembley on Saturday afternoon for an FA Cup final that promises to deliver much. Their Chelsea and Liverpool teams have played three times this season and have been separated only once, by the 22nd of a remarkable set of penalties when Klopp’s team won the Carabao Cup in February.
Speaking at Chelsea’s training ground on Friday, Tuchel carried the air of a man who is glad to have the chance of another go but there was also the theme of the week to consider.
Asked his opinion on Pep Guardiola’s strange recent assertion that everybody in the country supports Liverpool, Tuchel thought about it for a minute and then decided to dive straight off the high board.
‘I can understand why Pep made that comment,’ said Tuchel. ‘I can understand why he has that feeling. It is hard to really argue with it. I did not say I agree 100 per cent but I can see what he meant.
‘There is a huge sympathy for Liverpool in the country. They work hard for it and no offence.’
Guardiola’s comments came perhaps from a position of battle fatigue.
His Manchester City team have been locked in combat with Klopp’s Liverpool for some years now. But Tuchel has not managed to take his team quite to that exalted level of consistency yet.
He does not look quite as worn down by the sheer force of Klopp’s personality but that doesn’t mean he has no understanding of how things work.
‘If you fight against it, like Pep for many, many years, I can understand the comment that it feels sometimes like this,’ he said.
‘But at the same time, I don’t think it’s only here. It’s in Germany like this and in France too. That sympathy for Liverpool is there, too. It’s everywhere.
‘I have friends in Germany, of course it is also because of Jurgen, but in general [they love] what this club stands for and how they run the business, and how the fans push their team.’
This has been a strange season for Chelsea, one they began as Champions League holders and will end as world champions.
In between, though, there has been the disappointment of a Premier League challenge that slid away over time, frustrations with their new centre forward Romelu Lukaku and, more recently, the sanctioning of former owner Roman Abramovich and all that has accompanied it.
And now to this. Another shot at Liverpool and another chance to win a competition Tuchel has always loved. Chelsea lost against Leicester in last year’s final and will begin as slight underdogs on Saturday. That may suit them more.
Asked if victory at Wembley would compensate for a relatively underwhelming league campaign, Tuchel said: ‘I have to say it would make up for it big time.’
He went on to lament the fact that the final is not being played in its traditional slot on the very last weekend of the domestic season.
It is nice to hear a foreign coach respectful of English football’s traditions and Tuchel was sincere. His team have an opportunity on Sautrday, too. Chelsea would probably have won the Carabao Cup had it not been for wasteful finishing.
Lukaku was partly to blame that day and what appeared to develop in to a public argument with his agent on Friday will have done nothing for the Belgian’s state of mind. Still, though, Lukaku is expected to play as Tuchel seeks to exploit Liverpool’s high defensive line.
‘Liverpool do allow chances and we proved it with big chances in the Carabao Cup final,’ he explained. ‘But it’s their approach. They are the team who put other strikers of other teams into offside by far the most.
‘So it’s not easy to counter. You need the connection between the guy with the pass and the guy who receives it. But, like always, you can find solutions if you have a perfect day. We are hoping for it tomorrow.’
Liverpool’s biggest problem on Saturday may be their own sense of fatigue. Given their recent schedule and all they still have to play for, there simply must be some.
As for Chelsea, they know what they face. On the touchline, so does Tuchel. Asked if he sees Klopp’s face when he closes his eyes at night, he laughed.
‘When that happens, it’s time to stop working,’ he said.
Equally he understands the nature of the opponent.
‘Kloppo is the master of being the underdog,’ he said. ‘He can talk you into being the underdog against Villareal and against Benfica, and it’s a miracle, miracle how they even draw against them.
‘He does it all the time. That’s also where the sympathy comes but there’s nothing to be jealous of from my side.
‘Kloppo is a fantastic guy, funny guy, one of the very, very best coaches in the world and this is what you deal with when you play a team against him. It’s always like this but it’s always the fun part — and if we are the bad guys tomorrow then no problem.’
macarda
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This is my army klop hhh
Qwardwo
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I think the blues fans are all noise Makers, you people said more than these at the Carabao cup finals
You guys to the like noise making ahhh Look all over the platforms everybody dey talk about Liverpool So stop saying Chelsea Fans dey like noise making
Qwardwo
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tuchel please don't give that new owner high blood pressure just go play your game if you win he will appreciate you please stop talking
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See one stupid fan 😂
TryNuell
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nonsense as tuchel be your coach how many points did you pass me in the table?
ode he has been to 6ix finals in 1½ years how dare you he won best coach for 2020/2021 why am I even arguing with you your useless pateta there's no way he's useless
Semcprsu
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you're a fool if tuchel was your coach you'll be in top4 now
nonsense as tuchel be your coach how many points did you pass me in the table?
TryNuell
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but Tuchel has won 10 major Trophies to Klop 9 Trophies so look at your history before making Ramdom comments
klop has won UCL, club world cup, super cup,premier league and carabao all in almost 7years tuchel has won all that in 1½ years so shhhhhusss
TryNuell
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tuchel please don't give that new owner high blood pressure just go play your game if you win he will appreciate you please stop talking
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you're a fool if tuchel was your coach you'll be in top4 now
zebaelmy
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With or without trophy, any team that beats Liverpool itself is an glorious achievement and it will definitely taste sweeter than any trophy! That is why you can see teams even at the lowest rung played exceptionally better when they come up against Liverpool. It is the team to beat and everyone wants that!
womadeir
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if city likes they can buy all of mbappe, neymar and messi no way for cl
are you their God?
koaelmrsuy
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if city likes they can buy all of mbappe, neymar and messi no way for cl
Semcprsu
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tuchel please don't give that new owner high blood pressure just go play your game if you win he will appreciate you please stop talking
Fidleo2
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TUCHEL after the game with Liverpool
Necmnrsz
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Liverpool all the way
ChelseaFC_Addict
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Chelsea has nothing to prove on this game pressure on Liverpool chasing the record tuchel should bench Lukaku
I agree with you Chelsea FC have got nothing to lose but everything to gain so Tuchel must calm his players to inject more confidence in them as Liverpool players will be nervous
kumbulampofu
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Chelsea has nothing to prove on this game pressure on Liverpool chasing the record tuchel should bench Lukaku
hekabilmpt
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I hope Chelsea loose to YNWA
Pacekopruy
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This won't happen again..
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History will repeat itself. YNWA
veycelrz
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but Tuchel has won 10 major Trophies to Klop 9 Trophies so look at your history before making Ramdom comments
please don't say ligue 1 major trophy
noyadlstz
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We're all supporting Chelsea FC club
ManUnited-Red
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What a game this could be 😮🔥🔥
Nusadelmns
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this is Liverpool years
nitemptu
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I think the blues fans are all noise Makers, you people said more than these at the Carabao cup finals
Caddeimnu
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Bcoz only Liverpool non oil club, can compete with the oil club moneys
tohabemnu
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The blues must win the game today
why must?
tohabemnu
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Next joke pls
next joke: mane leaving soon 😂
Ceuinsu
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The blues must win the game today
Ceuinsu
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Today is the most talked about day in sports and that's the blues must win the FA final today and by the grace of God they shall win
ELITENAUGER
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Next joke pls
Mabkorsuz
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chelsea [Comeon]
YNBA
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This won't happen again..
Rekaeinrt
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TT is nowhere under Klopp
but Tuchel has won 10 major Trophies to Klop 9 Trophies so look at your history before making Ramdom comments
YoungRB
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TT is nowhere under Klopp