It is incredibly difficult to remember an occasion when a Manchester United team has been so comprehensively outclassed.
Even when Sir Alex Ferguson's side lost to Pep Guardiola's outstanding Barcelona in the 2011 Champions League final - 'they do mesmerise you with the way they pass it,' said the United boss afterwards - they at least scored and created chances.
There were some mid-1990s Champions League encounters with Marcello Lippi's Juventus when United resembled boys against men - but after a while they grew and met the challenge.
And there have been some embarrassing scorelines in recent years - 6-1 against Manchester City in 2011, the same scoreline against Tottenham last season - but you still felt they were just off-days.
However, the 5-0 thrashing by Liverpool at Old Trafford last month and especially Saturday's 2-0 home defeat to City have illustrated an enormous gulf in class between United and their rivals.
It brutally demonstrated just how far short Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's team are of actually challenging for the Premier League title - despite some misguided optimism in the summer.
The losses also laid bare the fact United have been stuck in a reverse gear for some time now.
Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool and Pep Guardiola's City are perfectly-calibrated machines, humming along in harmony to overpower opponents and win most of their games.
Even Chelsea have made huge strides in just a few months with Thomas Tuchel in charge.
But even after almost three years in the job, Solskjaer's United still resemble a collection of individuals without any identifiable style of football or togetherness.
Here are just some of the shocking stats that emerged not just from Saturday's mauling by City, but from recent trends with United.
Manchester United registered more shots on target against themselves (two) than they did at Manchester City's goal
United's one and only shot on target during the derby defeat was Cristiano Ronaldo's sharp volley that was pushed out by Ederson with the score at 1-0. They didn't manage another on target effort.
However, at the other end, Eric Bailly sliced Joao Cancelo's cross into his own net to gift-wrap City their opener.
Bailly may have spent a lot of time on the bench this season, having dropped to United's fourth-choice centre-back, but surely he hasn't forgotten how to clear the ball?
A few minutes later, Victor Lindelof almost suffered a similar fate but David de Gea managed to block his own goal attempt.
Manchester United managed just four touches in the opposition box - this is the club's lowest tally in any match since Opta began recording this statistic in 2008
And, you'd imagine, their lowest tally for a good while before 2008 as well.
It is as good a reflection as any at how City completely bossed the match. Their penalty area was practically sealed off to United.
It's indicative of United's slide of late because they've beaten City several times under Solskjaer, who has shown he can outwit Guardiola more than once.
This time, however, even with Cristiano Ronaldo leading their attack, United simply couldn't lay a glove on their rivals as move after move faltered, usually before they'd crossed half-way.
All 10 of City's outfield players registered more touches than any United player and City completed 762 passes (more than any team against United in the league since 2004)
It was 'death by passing' in the true Guardiola style. They attempted 832 passes during the match at Old Trafford and were successful with 762 of them.
On both counts, this was their highest return in the Premier League this season.
United, by contrast, tried 400 passes and completed 326 of them - unsurprisingly their lowest returns this season. It's little wonder City enjoyed two-thirds possession over the 90 minutes.
But for every City player bar keeper Ederson to register more touches than their opponents just shows how United were going nowhere fast when in possession.
For the record, Ronaldo had a mere 27 touches.
City defender Ruben Dias completed 12 passes in the final third - more than any United player
Such was United's limited threat, even Ruben Dias felt confident enough to stride forward from the back. The fact he was able to contribute to City's attack by pinging passes around United's box speaks volumes for their dominance.
It's now 14 games without a clean sheet at Old Trafford, the second-longest run in United's history after 21 games in 1958-59
The last time United kept a clean sheet at home was on April 15 when they beat Granada 2-0 in the quarter-finals of the UEFA Europa League.
Their last home clean sheet in the Premier League was the 1-0 win over West Ham on March 14.
To put into this stat into context, the last time United were so porous defensively at Old Trafford, their squad had just been ravaged by the Munich Air Disaster, in which eight players died.
United have suffered eight home defeats at Old Trafford this year - the most since 1989
2021 is rapidly turning into an Annus horribilis for United - they have lost at home to Manchester City (twice), Liverpool (twice), Sheffield United, Leicester City, West Ham and Aston Villa.
Back in 1989, they were defeated at home by Nottingham Forest, Derby County, Coventry City, Everton, Norwich City, Tottenham (twice) and Crystal Palace.
A certain manager by the name of Alex Ferguson, under pressure to deliver his first piece of silverware, was severely testing the patience of the fanbase.
By winning the FA Cup in 1990, Ferguson was able to embark on a dynasty of success. You suspect Solskjaer won't be doing likewise.
Also, United have lost more home games (nine) since the beginning of last season than Crystal Palace (eight).
21 per cent of United's home defeats in Premier League history have come under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
Saturday's loss was defeat No 13 in 55 home league games under Solskjaer. In the post-1992 era, they have lost a grand total of 63 home matches.
By way of comparison - Ferguson lost 34 of 405 home league games, or 8.4 per cent.
The days of Old Trafford being a fortress are long gone, that's for sure.
Bigfamo23
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D 🤡 of a manager gave city to play without him having a single plan on how 2 neutralize citi dominance of d game. E could ave just watch how palace defeat citi pervious week on beta e watch game e manager were e took citi 2 cleaners. Fast pacy players dat is wot a team can use 2 beat citi.
_jerryboy
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The team was never heading to the right direction. They still relied on individual brilliance. We were only second last season because Liverpool were not on good form because they had lots of injuries. Chelsea wasn't managed by an elite coach, they now have Tuchel. The team that was on form was City and they stretched us with a whopping12 points at the top.
_jerryboy
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United was second last season because Liverpool weren't at their best. They had lots of injuries and Chelsea's manager Lampard wasn't elite. Man City had no problem so they stretched us with 12 points at the top so we shouldn't be happy we were 2nd. This season the teams are at their best.
F412UL
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what Man United did wrong was since Ferguson days was in the selection of coaches that they appointed..they appointed coaches with the wrong profile and character..some are still inexperienced to handle a big club, some are too confrontational and stubborn
Zawbknoru
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Keep playing pogba, and bench CR7... you will see the ManU magic back. The team that finished last season was heading in the right direction - over ambitious distroyed the team that was growing strong.
Moteiopty
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Don't keep Ole under pressure, he is doing good job for opponents
BOYVEINS
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our 🐐 Messi x Ronaldo
mombkmnpr
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Problem is Glazer family don’t feel ashame
Fayaz7
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From to day i will never watch MU match if OLe is the boss
soldierzway
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Where did all the people go 🤣🤣🤣 this week No noise
Mik25ky
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If you want change just invade glazers house and the club grounds, let them feel unsafe to move then you get them to move, remember their way is the way of cowards.
Johdepty
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lonnado
Game_analyser
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United dont have a player who can hold the ball in the midfiled..every player in the midfiled in vulnerable to pressing.....so united should sign either neves or Brizovic.........Van da beek is the only player who is very calm on the ball....but unfortunately ole is reluctant to play him.....there is still some doubt of the double pivot od mctonomey and Van da beek...but ope should give chance for that duo... atleast..van da beek know wherr to pass..unlike fred whi's passing is pathetic...and van da beek isn't a work horse like fred(the only reason ole giving fred these chanses are due to his work rate off the ball)but van da beek could improve that aspect of his game and he still not that bad either.........so ole has to save his job then he should play...this line up
Mose_9
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much better
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you don't just understand football.....when you play with a back 3,you need wingback.... how do you expect pogba who can't defend to cover there
tusbimpy
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MrKlaus
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United next fixtures: Watford(away) Villarreal(away) Chelsea(away) Ole:Atleast it is not home,eh.
haybeilouy
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Göögle search LUC LYON BC and visit the wëbsitë so you can stop lôsïng your bëts on föötball matchës 🌭🌭🌭🌭🌭🌭🌭🌭🌭🌭🌭
fasekntz
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much better
Hicbeostyz
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man u funs be like. when you ask them what's happening
pamadimnuy
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Luverpool got beaten .These modern day fans doesnt seem to know that you win some and you lose some .because of germs like Autty football has gone to the dogs
yitbceky
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another 30 years is loading
pamadimnuy
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STINKING AUTTY .WHY DI FK YUH TEK SET PON OLE. ARE YOU A BMAN
Pebbcepyz
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im tired of reading and commenting united board to sack ole.....if anyone of the board member family is wit us pliz inform everyone is fade up of the club
fabckmnoz
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Tbh, Man U has been a different team after CR7 join..
Jaymizz
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There’s a particular guy that wears number 39 for united, HE IS SHIIIITTTT!!!
MChou
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after 3 yrs of rebuilding.. the house is even more rotten. pathetic..
pamadimnuy
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Big hole AUTTY Ole a fk yuh vig hole gal
yeybeiktuz
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ole must go
Vezonic22
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I get so tired reading the dismal news about Manchester United but it is what it is. This team can do way better....smh
Karkidipak
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even AF agrees king lingardinho 🤔🤔
Cakbceknp
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I would love leave those great players away from United as club is for money making rather than winning trophies... Players at United are ruining their skills, techniques as ever clueless manager is killing every player.... Love see those great players move away from United...
Desmondeyum
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The PL free points giveaway is still on just play Man United to subscribe.😂 Courtesy of Ole the man.
Desmondeyum
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Impossible to sack Ole
TheChamp01
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Ole is the worst clueless manager in the entire history ever🤡🤡🤡Even world class players joined Man Utd, they will still struggle because of clueless tactics 🤦♂️🤷♂️Man Utd board continue to let the fans suffer. So fking pissed off
rapacdlmyz
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Get us ERIK TEN HAG!! I want to watch entertaining football every week!
adesinaalamu
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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is as poor in thinking as his employers otherwise, he should have been sacked before now
Unitedforlife6
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The title is misleading..Ole has no shame
pacorules
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The days of Old Trafford being a fortress are long gone, that's for sure. I believe Ole MUST GO after playing against Chelsea