Three days after Michael Carrick sat at Elland Road and talked about a fresh start, this felt like the end.
He left the Giuseppe Sinigaglia Stadium looking beaten and rather bewildered after Manchester United hit a new low in Lombardy.
Losing 4-1 to Como was more than a defeat. It felt like a surrender. How apt that United played in white. Noussair Mazraoui played in tights, for goodness sake.
So here we go again. How much longer can Carrick last? Hours? Days? Beyond the international break? United have never sacked two managers in the same calendar year, but this cannot go on.
It has been a desperate season and the manner of United's capitulation in Italy was so dramatic, so shocking, that you wonder if the United hierarchy have a contingency plan in place for something like this.
They are not known for their forward-thinking and the Carrick crisis has engulfed them faster than they could ever have imagined, five months after they handed him a two-year contract in May.
Still, it would be negligent if they hadn't at least discussed possible replacements as the feelgood factor of qualifying for the Champions League has given way to utter despair amid the worst start to a league season in 40 years and the heaviest European defeat since 1994.
There are some intriguing possibilities. Brighton's Fabian Hurzeler is known to have admirers at Old Trafford, but it will not be cheap to extract the German from the Amex Stadium after he signed a new contract in June.
It cost Chelsea £20m in compensation for Graham Potter and his coaching staff in 2022. United are £1billion in debt and cannot keep paying out compensation to change managers.
Julian Nagelsmann and Antonio Conte are both available, as well as two young British options in Eddie Howe and Kieran McKenna.
Perhaps the bigger question now, is who would want the job? United are a club locked in a death spiral, a recurring nightmare, that won't be ended by replacing one man. It has become a coach's graveyard since Sir Alex Ferguson retired.
They all find a different way to go in the end. David Moyes insisted that he had the backing of the board until the moment he realised he didn't.
Louis van Gaal left Wembley clutching the FA Cup as if he would gladly have beaten his employers over the head with it after waking up to the fact it was his last match in charge.
Jose Mourinho's demise was 'death by a thousand cuts' according to former United chief Ed Woodward, but leaving Paul Pogba on the bench at Anfield felt like a final act of self-sabotage.
Like Carrick, Solskjaer's mea culpa and apologetic farewell to fans at Watford was a clear sign that the Norwegian knew he was toast. Erik ten Hag remained deluded to the last, even though Ineos had gone behind his back months earlier, and Ruben Amorim cut his own throat by taking them on in public.
Now Carrick's reign appears to be in its death throes, dragged down by performances that are an insult to this great club and increasingly loud dissent from the dressing-room.
The spotlight is back on Sir Jim Ratcliffe and the Glazers again now. On chief executive Omar Berrada and director of football Jason Wilcox. Do they act now or allow Carrick to stagger on in the belief that he can yet turn this around?
The hundreds of fans who had stood in the rain for hours in Como and left the ground long before Carrick walked over to apologise at the end have had their say. Now it's up to United.
napdemny
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I’m feeling sorry for M carrick
MogomotsiNlebgwa
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It is crazy that there is always a plan to replace the coach but none to invest in the team.
nawdeikmuz
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they can sacks the coach I don't think they solve a problem for Manchester united to solve the problem to buy new players and the should try to use academy players better than nothing to my concern is better to sacks the board which responsibilities for recruitment and financial board now they failed the coach because he wanted good players but them buy cheap and weak players
I think wajammel est plus fort commejammel
zeudilnot
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they can sacks the coach I don't think they solve a problem for Manchester united to solve the problem to buy new players and the should try to use academy players better than nothing to my concern is better to sacks the board which responsibilities for recruitment and financial board now they failed the coach because he wanted good players but them buy cheap and weak players
Totoolee22
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conte
jiycdlrsuz
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Even if you bring a new manager with that squad, I don't think there will be any improvement,,,, imagine united face Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, and you are defending Shaw.... Bring new super players, check other Teams like Man City, Arsenal, etc but still they are signing..
Boss0987
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United need a miracle worker not a manager. Martinez and Fernandes should be benched moving forward. Baleba can anchor the midfield. Play players who are not there to setup the manager for failure.
OluwasegunManU
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Go for someone that is jobless to replace Carrick, not some coaches that are under contract. The amount of money Man Utd spend on signing and sacking managers nowadays is very concerning.
miracle7
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Very time changing coaches when things not going as planned. Better find a Coach with a five year project because every coach who comes in comes with he's plan which is affecting the progress of the team
rezbcenp
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Who tells you he is going to be sacked.
Ndeapo
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The problem of the club is not coaching,Is management stop shifting Attention
vihcdmptz
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Bring Fabregas
Vedacdlnr
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Carrick is the best suit just leave him there
Yombclopuy
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Eddie Howe, to what at Manchester Utd
Jociklmnsy
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Manchester united need to improve this is not Manchester united we know
sedcelptuy
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This border are not serious now instead of brng. Conte they think these coarch again uhh maybe
Baockmnoz
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the coming coach will see fire too
Cezdeimors
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Martinex has said it all. United board are the problem, not the coaches.
Heikal_Mahsir
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Sack Wilcox, Berrada, and Carrick in one go.
Yozblnprst
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Please Briton coach please
Faadprtuy
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Bring the coach that will be given time
Rezdknoty
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Manchester United need coach like pep gadiola
Secabdlprz
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😂😂😂😂😂
jetelmrstz
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You man united fans are the problem when Ronaldo said the problem you were backing messi stupid fans that he is finished
Johbciruy
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Now I don't know if Man utd are waiting for another poor result or why they are not sacking Carrick,,,seriously speaking last night performance was very poor,,,no attack, the team lose the ball all of the sudden they relax ,it seems like they were training
Wudbcdklnr
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Humm United don't know from where they start.
liudeimotu
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Martinez said it they don't want to hear the truth these players are too week they play like school boys, they're all idiots, man u board try conte is the only one who can build this team because conte is tough and he doesn't follow others who are not in coaching staff. conte only only only only
SGTSingam
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Yesterday ManUtd wished for Antonio Conte, Today they want Julian Nagelsmann, Tomorrow they will confirm that WAYNE ROONEY is their Chief Head Coach 🤣✅💯
cekaciopsy
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Coach Man utd at your own risk 😊 I know my team
F412UL
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no coaches will come to United with the way players are behaving and the club hierarchy that seems to look for instant success instead of giving him the time and players they need to rebuild..even Guardiola cant fix this mess in 1-2 seasons
Thaddy
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The coach will only look useless just because he have all the useless set of players. The coach will look brilliant & smart when he have all the brilliant & brave set of players.. so don’t only blame Michael Carrick
caoakmostz
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Not Ningelsman please! He struggled with Buryen and Germany. That means he can't handle a big club. Maybe Eddy Howe or De LA Fuente for Spain 🇪🇸. We don't want the same problems
Lunacdenyz
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man united problem started since they sack there ever best goalkeeper, Di gea. ur goalkeeper is zero, ur defence is zero, all the players are weak, what are u doing went other clubs are buying players, Man u problem is not about coach, players need to come inn and some need to go out.
pumcimnop
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How many Man u They Board should giving a lot of money to buy Player
its not about more money.. is about selling those 4 useless player in the defend... man utd didn't sell any player same player
MrFuckcess
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How many Man u They Board should giving a lot of money to buy Player