As if this Champions League were not strange enough tonight we’ll see something we haven’t seen for well over a decade: Barcelona go into a game as underdogs.
Putting a date on the last time it happened opens a debate. It was maybe 2008 when Frank Rijkaard’s Barcelona faced Manchester United in the semi-final and Sir Alex Ferguson’s team won 1-0 on aggregate en-route to winning in Moscow.
A year later Pep Guardiola was Barça's new young coach and some might have called Bayern Munich favourites when they faced Barcelona in the quarter-finals but Barça beat them 4-0 at the Camp Nou, going through 5-1 on aggregate.
In the period since, when they have won the trophy three times it’s difficult to think of a tie they started not as the fancied winners.
The last time they won the European Cup in 2015 they took on Bayern Munich in the semi-finals and beat them 5-3 over two legs. The outstanding individual in both those previous meetings was Lionel Messi.
He produced one of the moments of the history of the tournament in 2015 when he made Jerome Boateng look like he’d taken an invisible punch to the jaw just inside the area.
Messi scored twice in the 2009 game too. If Barça are to win against the odds tonight he will need to be at his best again.
The big difference between now and then is that in ‘09 Messi was joined in attack by Thierry Henry and Samuel Eto’o who both scored in that 4-0. And in 2015 he had Neymar for company. The Brazilian got the third in the 3-0 win.
On Friday night Luis Suarez will be alongside him, but he is still getting back to full fitness after the knee operation in January that he thought had ruled him out for the rest of the season. And there really is no ‘third man’.
Antoine Griezmann is the willing volunteer. He has scored important goals this season but coach Quique Setien might not even start him.
Earlier in the week the messages coming out of the Barcelona camp seemed to suggest it would be Artur Vidal as an extra man in midfield at Griezmann’s expense.
‘Extra muscle for Bayern’ read one headline. That was another sign of the changing times – a Barcelona team picked to deal with the opponent’s threat.
That would never have happened when they were in their pomp under Pep and later Luis Enrique.
Messi at least is fit despite training this week with strapping on the ankle kicked by Napoli’s Kalidou Koulibaly in the last-16 second leg.
He got them past the Italian side, winning the corner for the first, scoring the second and winning the penalty for the third goal in the 3-1 win.
‘Without the strength of the team Leo will be less effective,’ said Setien on Thursday night. Some saw that as him talking down Messi’s importance. It seemed more like him trying to talk up the role of some of the supporting cast who will need to raise their game to support the lead tonight.
Bayern are on a run of 26 wins and one draw in their last 27 games. Their favourite status against a Barcelona side who came back after lockdown on top of La Liga but then drew three and lost one of their last 11 games and so were overtaken by Champions Real Madrid who dropped only two points.
So far speed and intensity have ruled in Lisbon. Leipzig played a million a miles an hour to get past Atletico last night. Atalanta did likewise 24 hours earlier and Paris Saint Germain had to match their rhythm to beat them.
Barcelona have not played with that pace for a while now. Even when they beat Liverpool 3-0 last season at the Camp Nou, Messi and Suarez were doubled over catching their breath midway through the game, struggling against Liverpool’s high tempo.
Barcelona have Ousmane Dembele back six months after an operation on a hamstring tendon but he has not played for nine months and it is a big ask for him to step forward and find his old Borussia Dortmund form against the German Champions.
Suarez, Griezmann and possibly 17-year-old Ansu Fati off the bench will be there to help him but the weight of expectation will be on Messi’s shoulders.
He is used to it. If he can carry the weight of Argentina then he can do the same for Barcelona. His detractors say he doesn't deliver for Argentina and that he can’t be considered the best ever without a World Cup.
This Champions League feels like a World Cup. Messi lifting the European Cup a week Sunday wont match it, but it will come close, and even more so achieved in a team of 'plucky underdogs'.
Khalifybinney
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Oh that's bad bro I hope you stay with your next love for the rest of your life😕
Amen bro, the same to your also So are you happy of whats going on in arsenal
Gunners4ever❤
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For some few weeks bro.... it didn't even reach a month
Oh that's bad bro I hope you stay with your next love for the rest of your life😕
Khalifybinney
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How long did your relationship last?😮
For some few weeks bro.... it didn't even reach a month
Gunners4ever❤
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Hmmmm... Is not easy bro, the same thing happen to me but diffrent kind story.... We started dating for at least one week... It was smoothly and beautiful, we fall inlove with each other like mad people... The *love* was unbelievable but after the one week, things started to fall apart and it was due to this reasons "Anytime i call her on, she is one call with another guy.... She did many times and i couldn't control my temper so i went to her house and bro we *fought*..... 😪😪.... I don't wanna go far so from that on everything started to fail
How long did your relationship last?😮
Khalifybinney
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Me and my ex enjoyed a happy 6 months together, but due to a time where one of my mates were spreading rumours about my ex gf saying a boy likes her, I wanted to make sure whether it's true or not. I didn't say that because I don't trust her but because I just wanted to make sure, but she thought otherwise and decided to break up with me😭A few days later on her birthday, I wanted to win her back by explaining it but she wasn't convinced somehow so I stopped going after her since then. Interesting?😏
Hmmmm... Is not easy bro, the same thing happen to me but diffrent kind story.... We started dating for at least one week... It was smoothly and beautiful, we fall inlove with each other like mad people... The *love* was unbelievable but after the one week, things started to fall apart and it was due to this reasons "Anytime i call her on, she is one call with another guy.... She did many times and i couldn't control my temper so i went to her house and bro we *fought*..... 😪😪.... I don't wanna go far so from that on everything started to fail
ExauceLunama
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I tell you Bayern will pay for making Barcelona seem to an underdog!!!
Really?😂😂😂
Gunners4ever❤
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😁😁... Story time, now lets have a fun small.. tell me what happen with your ex
Me and my ex enjoyed a happy 6 months together, but due to a time where one of my mates were spreading rumours about my ex gf saying a boy likes her, I wanted to make sure whether it's true or not. I didn't say that because I don't trust her but because I just wanted to make sure, but she thought otherwise and decided to break up with me😭A few days later on her birthday, I wanted to win her back by explaining it but she wasn't convinced somehow so I stopped going after her since then. Interesting?😏
Khalifybinney
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No I don't have a gf now, although I do have an ex. Besides it's too early for me to think about starting a relationship because I'm still damn young. Don't worry about me, Arsenal gives me heart attacks every season but I'm patient. It will pay off someday I hope😁
😁😁... Story time, now lets have a fun small.. tell me what happen with your ex
Gunners4ever❤
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Ah thats what i wanna hear from you..... At least i hope you have a gf because the broken heart by arsenal you couldn't stand it
No I don't have a gf now, although I do have an ex. Besides it's too early for me to think about starting a relationship because I'm still damn young. Don't worry about me, Arsenal gives me heart attacks every season but I'm patient. It will pay off someday I hope😁
Khalifybinney
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We said the same thing when Usmanov left, when Mislintat left, when Cagigao and everyone else for that matter left too😂But yeah Arsenal can easily make you feel pessimistic and I am very pessimistic myself, but there's an optimistic bit in me as well. So I'll support the Gunners no matter our predicament✊COYG🔴⚪🔥💪
Ah thats what i wanna hear from you..... At least i hope you have a gf because the broken heart by arsenal you couldn't stand it
pihbmprtz
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griensmen and fati should have started
Gunners4ever❤
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Be positive bro.... Just now sanllehi is gone so this means we are now back to rebuild a new team... To challenge for titles
We said the same thing when Usmanov left, when Mislintat left, when Cagigao and everyone else for that matter left too😂But yeah Arsenal can easily make you feel pessimistic and I am very pessimistic myself, but there's an optimistic bit in me as well. So I'll support the Gunners no matter our predicament✊COYG🔴⚪🔥💪
Khalifybinney
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I actually don't😂😂😂 I don't trust this board they've let us down for 13 years now under Kroenke's ownership. He's the one who's holding Arsenal back. Kroenke out!
Be positive bro.... Just now sanllehi is gone so this means we are now back to rebuild a new team... To challenge for titles
Gunners4ever❤
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Yes bro ... This time i smell positive thing in this arteta team
I actually don't😂😂😂 I don't trust this board they've let us down for 13 years now under Kroenke's ownership. He's the one who's holding Arsenal back. Kroenke out!
Khalifybinney
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We can hope. Our board must get things right this time. Sanllehi has gone.. I hope Vinai and Edu work wonders for Arsenal and help Arteta build a good enough team to challenge for titles.
Yes bro ... This time i smell positive thing in this arteta team
Gunners4ever❤
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And of course our gunners are coming back.... it will be nice to see our new generation...
We can hope. Our board must get things right this time. Sanllehi has gone.. I hope Vinai and Edu work wonders for Arsenal and help Arteta build a good enough team to challenge for titles.
Khalifybinney
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Yeah.. Barça better not sink like AC Milan and Arsenal.
And of course our gunners are coming back.... it will be nice to see our new generation...
Khalifybinney
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Yeah.. Barça better not sink like AC Milan and Arsenal.
Nowadays Ac millan are coming back to their usual form
Gunners4ever❤
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Yes... They have to set their eyes on la masia again.... Because there are many talents there They need to do it as soon as possibly
Yeah.. Barça better not sink like AC Milan and Arsenal.
Khalifybinney
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Yeah they're still better than the core of this Barça team except Messi and ter Stegen🤣🤣🤣But they do need to promote players from their academy (Monchu, Collado, Wagué etc.) and sign 2 good CBs, a good midfielder and a prolific striker. I think that's what Barça need to be UCL contenders again🙂
Yes... They have to set their eyes on la masia again.... Because there are many talents there They need to do it as soon as possibly
Gunners4ever❤
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😂😂😂😂😂.... You are crazy.... Maybe those retired boys could do better
Yeah they're still better than the core of this Barça team except Messi and ter Stegen🤣🤣🤣But they do need to promote players from their academy (Monchu, Collado, Wagué etc.) and sign 2 good CBs, a good midfielder and a prolific striker. I think that's what Barça need to be UCL contenders again🙂
Khalifybinney
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They should bring back Puyol, Xavi, Villa, Eto'o and Ronaldinho back from retirement and they should also bring back Iniesta and Dani Alves from Vissel Kobe and São Paulo respectively😂
😂😂😂😂😂.... You are crazy.... Maybe those retired boys could do better
Gunners4ever❤
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Now what do you think Barcelona need to do now
They should bring back Puyol, Xavi, Villa, Eto'o and Ronaldinho back from retirement and they should also bring back Iniesta and Dani Alves from Vissel Kobe and São Paulo respectively😂
Luodprt
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I tell you Bayern will pay for making Barcelona seem to an underdog!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Raedksy
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Where did the eight come from.
AbenNyeal3
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hopefully you're in the mood of laughter
😭😭😭
Sokcdpst
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one will laugh today after 9:00 pm😂😂
hopefully you're in the mood of laughter
Khalifybinney
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Harsh truth
Now what do you think Barcelona need to do now
Doycklnuy
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We all know that Barca's main man, go-to player is Leo 'GOAT' Messi, but alongside him he has a German international goalkeeper; Portugal's right-back; a French World Cup-winning centre-back; Gerard Pique, who could play anywhere he wants; a left-back who was part of Spain's glory era; the starting pivot in Luis Enrique's current Spanish starting XI; Holland's best central midfielder; a Chilean beast who gives that physical edge to the midfield; La Masia Graduate Puig, who is vital in forward play as well as during transition; and in attack, a French forward that Barcelona pursued for season after season, who is a Big game player; and his best friend, El Pistolero, whose telepathy with Messi can be lethal for any opposition Underdogs or not, the match is gonna be on of the Best!!
for sure it made history [Crylaugh][Crylaugh][Crylaugh]
Gunners4ever❤
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Yes bro.... both of them don't deserve this at all
Harsh truth
Khalifybinney
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Not for the whole team but I feel for Messi, de Jong and Ter Stegen
Yes bro.... both of them don't deserve this at all
Gunners4ever❤
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😂😂😂😂..... Yes but don't you feel little for Barcelona
Not for the whole team but I feel for Messi, de Jong and Ter Stegen
Khalifybinney
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As an Arsenal fan, I feel better now after seeing another team get humiliated by Bayern🤣
😂😂😂😂..... Yes but don't you feel little for Barcelona
Gunners4ever❤
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Is really painful bro.... As an arsenal fan i know how it feels
As an Arsenal fan, I feel better now after seeing another team get humiliated by Bayern🤣
Khalifybinney
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Yeah.
Is really painful bro.... As an arsenal fan i know how it feels
Gunners4ever❤
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Barcelona need to rebuild thier team.... They need more changes
Yeah.
Khalifybinney
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Underestimating Bayern is the biggest Mistake you've ever Made in your Life
Barcelona need to rebuild thier team.... They need more changes
Gunners4ever❤
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Hmmmmmm ... Is call disastrous
Underestimating Bayern is the biggest Mistake you've ever Made in your Life
SkyAbdiG
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For sure and forever now its confirmed Barca is the underdogs against any Europa elites 😂😂😂
Khalifybinney
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Bayern Munich have explained it for me already😏
Hmmmmmm ... Is call disastrous
Gunners4ever❤
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Explain yourself
Bayern Munich have explained it for me already😏
Gunners4ever❤
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😁... So were will you be watching the match
In my country, at home😁Where else do you think?😁😁
Khalifybinney
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Yeah. Can't wait for the match to kick off
😁... So were will you be watching the match
Gunners4ever❤
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Have you seen Barcelona line up.... Jeeezzzz... The real show is about to start
Yeah. Can't wait for the match to kick off
Khalifybinney
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Messi alone can't win for Barça. Bayern are by far the better team even if they don't have a GOAT in their team.. Bayern are favourites.
Have you seen Barcelona line up.... Jeeezzzz... The real show is about to start
Gunners4ever❤
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Everyone is favorite in this match... 50/50 and to be frank what make barca favorite is messi
Messi alone can't win for Barça. Bayern are by far the better team even if they don't have a GOAT in their team.. Bayern are favourites.
wabzidane
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All I know is that fcb must win
Jummer
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he is used to it.
Blessedman
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one will laugh today after 9:00 pm😂😂
sure one must go
AbenNyeal3
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one will laugh today after 9:00 pm😂😂